HA HA HA... My Boss
This is a discussion on HA HA HA... My Boss within the Defensive Knives & Other Weapons forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; My previous job (retail, first job at that) involved people mostly alright with my Gerber Paraframe (it's not hidden, just clipped in my pocket and ...
November 1st, 2007 11:57 PM
My previous job (retail, first job at that) involved people mostly alright with my Gerber Paraframe (it's not hidden, just clipped in my pocket and fairly obvious if you glimpsed the silver clip on black slacks), but it flipped the District Manager out. She was trying to get creative with opening a box of random shipment stuff, so I got frustrated and whipped the knife out, had the tape cut, and saw the most priceless face I'd ever seen on a person.
In the restaurant biz people don't care about it, and mostly don't notice. Only two people have brought it up, but after shrugging and telling them "It's a tool" they don't make any kind of deal about it and mostly ignore it.
The day I'm at a job and someone sends me home because of that paraframe is the day I submit resignation papers and hunt for a new job.
November 1st, 2007 11:57 PM
November 2nd, 2007 03:52 AM
CelticWolf, I just have to say. I looked up the Recon 1 since you mentioned it and found it was just what I was looking for. Thanks.
November 2nd, 2007 05:58 AM
No, I mean it's insane in the way it is not only violent and crazy, but there are powerful forces that try to keep good people from being able to take a defensive posture against that insanity.
Originally Posted by luvmy40
So you can say that the insanity is why you carry; what I'm saying is that part of the insanity is the taking away of your right to do so in the first place!
November 2nd, 2007 06:03 AM
If it's company policy to not allow any kind of knife ("weapon"), and someone from the company needs the assistance of my knife, it's my policy to just pretend I don't have one.
Originally Posted by Miggy
They set the policy. They can reap the detriment that comes when someone needs the tool that they prohibited. Idiots!
Maybe some idiot up the chain of command will come to understand that biting your nose to spite your face is stupid. Let them be helpless without a knife.
This woman you mentioned may not have written the policy, but there she was trying to enforce it even as enforcing it would have left her unable to cut what she needed cut! What a moron!
November 2nd, 2007 09:05 AM
Some of you are better people than I am. If someone needed a knife to open a box, then upon seeing it commented that the knife was against company policy, the knife would go back in my pocket - "what knife?" and they could tear at the box with their teeth. Or if the box was already open, I'd go get packing tape to close it back up. Can't have evidence of my violating company policy after all.
Good thing I no longer work in a "normal" work environment.
November 2nd, 2007 03:11 PM
Personally, I would have told him "it's not a weapon it's a tool, and no, it's not illegal". End of story.
Originally Posted by CelticWolf
Now basically you've:
1) Agreed with him it is a weapon (when was the last time you used your firearm to open a box?)
2) Agreed it is illegal.
Everyone: Next time someone asks you for a knife, reply: "Why, where's yours?".
The more we pander to this sillyness, we are basically submitting to it.
November 2nd, 2007 03:26 PM
I have never worked in a business that allowed employees to carry. In this area, they seem so rare that you have no real choice in the matter. The only ones I know of are the gun stores.
And the policies all specify weapons with pretty clear and broad definitions, not just firearms.
November 2nd, 2007 03:51 PM
I think the sane way to define an HR policy is around legality. That you don't allow illegal items and you don't allow people to intimidate or threaten others. The end.
Originally Posted by sailormnop
If your firearm/knife is legal and nobody knows about it, why should it be against policy? Indeed, why should there be a policy? It's covered under the more generic issue.
I think in general, HR policies are targeted at morons.
Q: Can I call my co-workers 'hot cakes'?!
A: Since you obviously have no common sense, here are a list of approved words and phrases you may use while at the job.
November 2nd, 2007 04:36 PM
Had a security guard where I used to work (I retired) comment one time that "everyone knows a knife is a weapon." I replied, "So is a credit card and a ball-point pen." His jaw dropped and I just walked away, smiling to myself.
November 4th, 2007 11:54 AM
Having a C.P.L. (CCW) in Michigan has no bearing on knife carry and it does not change what is legal or not.
Les Baer 45
N.R.A. Patron Life Member
November 5th, 2007 12:54 AM
Yeah... im stupid.. I re-read the statute.
Originally Posted by Supertac45
MCL 750.226 No. Michigan law specifies that a person, with intent to use the knife unlawfully against another, shall not go armed with a knife having a blade over 3 inches in length.
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