Another knife research request

Another knife research request

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    Another knife research request

    I'm looking for the perfect survival knife. I'm not talking about dropping into the rain forest with hostile guerrillas coming at me. What I mean is for north woods, living off the land use. I'm commonly in situations where my return to civilization can get delayed, and I'm on my own with limited supplies.


    My requirements:
    • Fixed blade
    • Full Tang
    • Relatively stainless
    • 5" blade (give or take)
    • 4.5" handle
    • 3/16 thickness
    • One sided blade
    • No serrations, but partially staggered is a plus


    I'm not a rich man, so let's keep it under $100.

    I know stainless is not as hard, but I'm am frequently in wet/humid environments, so it's a compromise I need to make. I don't like serrations, cause I hardly ever need them, and they are to hard for me to keep sharp. I go through cheapie knives like crazy, it's time I put some money down for a better grade.


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    In the $100 and under, its going to be a larger Buck hunting blade (stainless) or a Ka-Bar or Ontario (coated 1095 tool steel). Google-fu is your best bet. You can find most of these in the $50-60 range with some searching.

    Stepping up, Rat is comparable to Tops, and a bit cheaper (but still some over your stated budget.)
    RAT Cutlery Co.

    I'm partial to 1095, unless you're in a coastal/swamp region.

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    I'd go with a Ka-bar, you can take over France with one of those; we have proof
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    Kabar or a Cold Steel Recon. Cold steel makes some great knives but either knife handles well for me. We typically set out for a semi survival weekend atleast once or twice a year and I really do use my knives for multi purpose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob72 View Post

    Stepping up, Rat is comparable to Tops, and a bit cheaper (but still some over your stated budget.)
    RAT Cutlery Co.

    I'm partial to 1095, unless you're in a coastal/swamp region.

    +1 on the Rat4. Bang for the buck is enormous if you can swing another $65 or so.

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    Thanks for the great replies!

    So far my favorite is the RC-4 but I can't afford it.

    So I'll probably try the Buck Vanguard if I don't find anything else.

    Maybe I should sell one of my guns. Lately, I've been using my knives more. I'll keep looking for a few more days...

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    Someone more knowledgeable may want to chime in here, but I don't think you necessarily need to trade off stainless vs strength as long as you take care of your tools. When not in use and after a good cleaning, I keep my fixed blades covered in a thin layer/polished with "Renaissance Sword Wax". It seems to do a good job of fighting off moisture and not letting any rust start to form.
    The other option is to just give everything a thin/light coat of oil before sheathing for extended periods too. The wax stuff is cheap too. It's usually only around $20 and my last little can of it has lasted a good 4 years now and I'm only halfway through the can(200mL).
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    Ka-bar or an Ontario, like their aviator model.
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    OK, I found a website with good prices, and it's giving me more options.

    They have RAT RC4 for $91
    • 1095 Carbon Steel, 57 Rc.
    • 9.0" Overall length
    • 4.06" Cutting Edge Length with drop point
    • Blade .188" thick
    • Blade Length (end of handle to tip of blade): 4.5"
    • Micarta handle
    • Formed Ambidextrous Kydex sheath with MOLLE Locks included
    • Vertical and horizontal carry


    And an Ontario Ontario TAK-1 D2 for $74
    • D2 Steel, 57-58 Rc
    • 10" overall length
    • 4.25" cutting edge length with drop point
    • Blade .1875" thick
    • Micarta Handle
    • Ambidextrous Cordura® nylon sheath with lashing holes for attachment or paracord storage


    I'm leaning towards the Ontario. It's cheaper and made of D2 (more stainless than 1095). What do you think? Any other ideas not mentioned already?

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    Weeelll... The RAT series (Ontario version)was a joint production by RAT and Ontario. RAT's contract finished, and they went about their regular production. Ontario is suing them, stating that Ontario has a right to the RAT name (crap as RAT was incorporated and producing before the Ontario venture.) Big guy trying to run little guy innovator out of the market. I would spend the extra $20 to support a non-subsidiary, US owned company, but men of limited funds can't always afford lofty principles.

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