Dog defense........

Dog defense........

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    Angry Dog defense........

    Due to many encounters with large aggressive dogs dating back to my childhood, and incidents in the news such as the poor lady who was torn apart in her own apt. building out in SF a few years ago by two huge and dangerous dogs, I always carry at least a can of Mean Green spray and wonder if anyone has ever used this on a dog? It seems like really nasty stuff but if it won't get the job done I'll carry something that spits Speer Gold Dots!


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    Dogs are targets that are hard to hit. I only have a gun, and I will hold no reservation killing somebody's pet or a stray if it's coming at me. If I miss, hopefully the noise will sho them away, but don't bank on it.
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    One problem with using oc as a primary IMHO is if you miss or the dog continues after getting sprayed you may or may not be able to draw your weapon depending on where the dog grabbed and how vicious the attack is,I'd rather have my gun out and even if he grabs my arm i hold out to protect i can then fire at point blank range into his body,I might get bit but he's gonna get bit harder,that depends on area,in a neighborhood i don't wanta be shooting at a moving target where my bullets will ricochet
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    You can get a fog distribution can of pepper spray or use what one guy told me that worked pretty well... wasp spray! He swears by it too.
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    If you get a big nasty dog like a pit bull or a Rottweiler charging you, that pepper spray may not act quickly enough to keep it from knocking you off your feet.

    If you hit the ground with that dog on top of you, if you don't get killed, you will spend a very long time healing up.
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    im a big dog lover and find it very hard to use any weapon against a dog even under attack. dogs only do one thing . they bite . once you grasp that you realize its not hard to stop an attacking single dog . dogs are easily misdirected with a single push or hold. however i know if my life or a kids life or a defenseless persons life was actually in danger , a good blast of OC or even a "muzzle grab" and hard punch to the nose will dislodge most will to attack.

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    . however i know if my life or a kids life or a defenseless persons life was actually in danger , a good blast of OC or even a "muzzle grab" and hard punch to the nose will dislodge most will to attack
    You'd bet your life on that? I dang sure wouldn't.



    I've seen two fatal dog attacks. One by some pit bulls and another by a Rottweiler. I had to shoot a Pit Bull that wanted to gulp my blood. The pit I had to shoot, I wouldn't have had time for spray, I barely had time to shoot.

    If you so much as hesitate for 1/2 second to figure out what to do, you are going to be in a world of hurt, serious hurt. A punch on the nose of a big dog wont even phase it. Some dogs, like people are immune to spray.

    If you are relying on a punch to the snout or spray to save yourself or a loved one or anyone else, you need to rethink your strategy.
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    You're right. There is very little time with an aggressive dog coming at you full-speed.

    The one time I've had a larger such dog get me (a doberman-mix of sorts), I rammed my hand down its throat. Close-in, the gaping mouth was the most-sensitive thing I could reach. Kept shoving it down as far as it would go. Sliced up my arm fairly well. It backed off, after that, no doubt with some damage to his esophagus. I doubt it would work with trained pits or a larger rottweiler. Uncertain if it would work again, if faced with a similar situation. Still, it worked in this one situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by norestrds View Post
    im a big dog lover and find it very hard to use any weapon against a dog even under attack. dogs only do one thing . they bite . once you grasp that you realize its not hard to stop an attacking single dog . dogs are easily misdirected with a single push or hold. however i know if my life or a kids life or a defenseless persons life was actually in danger , a good blast of OC or even a "muzzle grab" and hard punch to the nose will dislodge most will to attack.
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    You'd bet your life on that? I dang sure wouldn't.



    I've seen two fatal dog attacks. One by some pit bulls and another by a Rottweiler. I had to shoot a Pit Bull that wanted to gulp my blood. The pit I had to shoot, I wouldn't have had time for spray, I barely had time to shoot.

    If you so much as hesitate for 1/2 second to figure out what to do, you are going to be in a world of hurt, serious hurt. A punch on the nose of a big dog wont even phase it. Some dogs, like people are immune to spray.

    If you are relying on a punch to the snout or spray to save yourself or a loved one or anyone else, you need to rethink your strategy.
    heh...I wouldn't either. Certain types of dogs...whether trained properly or not, a good shot to the nose WILL NOT deter it. Pit's are a prime example. As much as I love them (I own one), there are some realities to face. One of the Pit's(among a few other breeds) traits, is to have a very high pain tolerance with which a large blow to the nose when they are engaged...really won't stop. It was bred into them. I wouldn't depend on a nose shot, or a spray.

    When you have an aggressive dog coming for you...don't hesitate to shoot... That's the only guaranteed method.
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    ive been attacked by dogs and its worked for me . I have an Akita and a Pitbull / Shepard mix and i have had to tussle with them before over dominance and im pretty good at it id assume . A blind attack on the street from a charging stray is obviously different . something you can see coming unless you have the reflexes of Christopher Reeve should not be a real threat unless you freeze up.

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    If your CCW isn't going to be your first method then try . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by norestrds View Post
    im a big dog lover and find it very hard to use any weapon against a dog even under attack. dogs only do one thing . they bite . once you grasp that you realize its not hard to stop an attacking single dog . dogs are easily misdirected with a single push or hold. however i know if my life or a kids life or a defenseless persons life was actually in danger , a good blast of OC or even a "muzzle grab" and hard punch to the nose will dislodge most will to attack.
    How many times have you actually been attacked by a dog? This post makes me think the answer is never. A tussle with a pet is not the same thing.

    Dogs are fast and once one is attacking you they are NOT easily distracted. Once a 100+ pound dog has his teeth in you and starts to thrash like a great white you'll sing a different tune. Ouch!
    It is surely true that you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink. Nor can you make them grateful for your efforts.

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    99% of dogs are basically harmless against a grown person that fights back. They are not a bear or a mountain lion that hits from behind. They latch on and stay for the most part which is their downfall in a attack. This is for 1 dog only, not a pack. A pack is kind of like a group of city dirt bags, they all want to be king. It's trigger time then.
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    Whenever I'm on foot, it's usually in the company of my wife and three toddlers. I don't intend on taking chances with a charging dog - I'll shoot first.
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    I love dogs. I have dogs and have had a dog as a partner. That said, I also bear the scars of multiple dog bites. Yes peper spray works on dogs (most of the time) and it works real well on snakes too (that is helpfull around here as I just killed five copperheads on my front porch last month).

    However peperspray isnt perfect, but neither is a gun, I've got the scar to prove that and it was a good double lung and heart hit).

    Knives do work as I have told the story here on the board in the past of having to use a CQC-7 to protect my daughter and my own skin while riding my Harley from an attacking dog. Daughter, me and the Emerson are all doing fine, but cant say the same for the dog.

    I dont run without my peperspray and pistol due to mutts (four and two legged versions) that might be looking for an easy meal.

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