Stupid/not? Using an air taser as your LTL option.
This is a discussion on Stupid/not? Using an air taser as your LTL option. within the Defensive Knives & Other Weapons forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I've been thinking about this. Most all of us here understand the importance of carrying a less-lethal tool to use in dangerous situations, but maybe ...
March 18th, 2009 10:51 AM
Stupid/not? Using an air taser as your LTL option.
I've been thinking about this. Most all of us here understand the importance of carrying a less-lethal tool to use in dangerous situations, but maybe not something that may immediately justify drawing a firearm.
Sure, we may have pepper spray, but there's always the question of whether it will affect the BG, how quickly, whether they've felt it before and so can work through it, etc. An air taser (aka, Taser) seems like a nicer option.
The C2 Taser, the last model they came out with, seems like a decent option. It's compact and so long as its legal in your area to carry, you should be ok. Only downside is that you basically only have one chance - not so with pepper spray or a hands-on tool like a kubaton or maybe just a fist. It's also difficult to really "practice" with in the traditional sense since the cartridges run $25-$40 a pop and pop out those tags everywhere whenever you fire it.
Anyway, what do you think? Also, do you think anyone will ever make something like an IWB holster for a Taser C2 or similar? I was thinking maybe you could keep it on your weak side, and keep your carry pistol on your strong side as usual.
Anyway, let me know if I'm being stupid or unreasonable here
March 18th, 2009 08:16 PM
I may not be most but I do not carry any less lethal option, it is difficult enough to carry a firearm. Some may call me naive but I trust my S/A and verbal skills; I just can't justify carrying any more hardware on a daily basis.
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March 18th, 2009 09:20 PM
The C2 Taser is a good option if not pricey at $349.99(Cabelas). I have a hard time finding a place to carry my pepper spray along with my gun and spare magazine and keys and wallet and small flashlight and .....well you get the picture!
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March 18th, 2009 09:39 PM
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March 18th, 2009 11:41 PM
I think its great for someone who dosent want to carry a gun. But they are expensive, and i think pepper on a keyring is more practical.
March 19th, 2009 02:39 AM
I don't think it's a stupid idea. Sometimes there are places where you can't legally carry a firearm but you can carry a taser.
I don't know how they would work against heavy clothing though.
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March 19th, 2009 03:08 AM
I also do not think it is stupid. However, like any defensive tool, they all have their place and their limits. But it is a valid option.
Besides my guns, I do carry a small keychain size can of Fox Labs OC spray and a 120 lumen LED flashlight that is long enough to do double duty as a Kubotan. It's just a tiny bit fatter and not quite as long as a standard Kubotan, but I can perform almost all the same things as you can with a full length kubotan so it works fine for me. And a Benchmade Griptilian folding knife.
So I have a variety of options both lethal and non lethal. My knife is used more as an everyday utility tool and would rarely if ever used as a weapon. But it is still there if needed. No extra bulk at all to carry clipped in a pocket.
The flashlight is just an absolute essential item for anyone who carries a gun. Period. You never know when you may need to illuminate a dark area and making a positive ID before shooting is an absolute must! The fact that it can do double duty as a impact Kubotan is just an extra alternative to lethal force and one less thing to carry. Plus the 120 lumens is blinding.
The OC spray is probably an extra item to carry, but I prefer having it because it's keyring sized and the Fox Labs stuff is pretty potent at 5.7 million scoville heat units. So, it is really not that hard to conceal or much of a burden to carry. Plus it is ultra light weight so that shouldn't be an issue for most.
So for me... the Taser would likely be too much. But it certainly has a place for some people.
The bottom line for me is.... the more options you posses, the easier it is to avoid pulling the trigger and take a life. The more tools you have the more problems you can fix without limiting yourself. If all you carry is a hammer all your problems tend to look like a nail.
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March 20th, 2009 01:17 AM
Do you think there will something like an IWB holster option for a C2 Taser? At least it would keep your pockets free and the device more immediately accessible, depending on how you wear it, of course.
It is legal to open carry a Taser here in Florida... but I don't really feel like wearing something like that on my belt, like how sometimes people wear their cellphones. It would just be odd, I think. Plus it'd be in a closed-top case. Might look nice in a purse, but for a defensive tool, kind of useless.
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March 20th, 2009 10:17 AM
I am not a fan of tools that encourage you to stand still when deployed. This specifically applies to the Taser and OC. I would rather use a mechanical force option that encourages you to move like an edged or impact weapon.- George
March 20th, 2009 10:22 AM
I think a taser is great for a civillian if they can't carry a gun.
If you can carry a gun than pepper spray is a your best choice for a less than leathal option.
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March 20th, 2009 10:53 AM
Originally Posted by pgrass101
I tend to agree with both statements.
Note, that a "taser", which allows some standoff, is completely different than a contact "stun gun", which I wouldn't recommend under any circumstances.
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March 23rd, 2009 01:21 PM
I would go with pepper spray first.
Originally Posted by paul34
I actually think a higher voltage stun gun is much
better than a Tazer. The Tazer gives you one shot
only and then it's basically a stun gun after the first
shot...and to use it as a stun gun..it will have lower
punching power than the traditional stun gun.
The make some great stun guns now. All the way up to
two million volts. Now that is going to hurt anyone.
Just need to hold it on them for several seconds.
Plus with the stun gun you can pop the arc a few
times in the air and most BG's would run away
after seeing that.
March 23rd, 2009 05:05 PM
Well as others have said it is not for me. But only because my batbelt is too full already. I think if it something your willing to carry go for it. As far as a holster goes I would think you could find someone to make you one if you tried.
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March 24th, 2009 11:10 AM
Believe it or not, I actually managed to find a functional holster.
Tuff Products C2 TASER Holster
It's OWB, but looking at it, I'm thinking it could probably just be worn the other way for IWB, although then the cant would be wrong... although if you're carrying weak side (with your carry pistol on the strong side), then I think it might work out.
March 24th, 2009 04:56 PM
This is about the only way I would carry a LTL option.
Taser mounted to the rail on an AR.
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