Rigged Clothing
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October 22nd, 2009 12:46 AM
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Rigged Clothing
Something I was taught in SERE was to rig my uniforms for escape. Things like replacing boot laces w/550 cord, sewing razor blades into pockets, replacing dog-tag chains w/10lb leader line, etc.
This is all pretty easy to do on uniforms, since I don't have that many of them, but what about civilian clothing? Has anyone tried this on theirs? Ideas for the most practical/useful methods?
Clearly these measures are intended for resistance/escape scenarios, not immediate defense.
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October 25th, 2009 03:53 AM
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I guess the most practical thing is simply concealing about your person various items for daily or emergency use.
I don't necessarily like to have everyone knowing ALL the tricks up my sleeve, so I've been known to stash knives, tactical flashlights, magazines, etc, in all sorts of places.
Given the "conventional wisdom" that decries the placement of a bootknife in an actual boot, no one expects it there.
I had a ladyfriend who would remove the pocket material from her skirt pockets to allow access to the knife strapped to her thigh.
I love things that can be hidden along forearms and in armpits. A little extra stitching and a good piece of denim in an advantageous spot can give you a knife or magazine at either end of either sleeve.
Mostly it comes from what I call "Practical Laziness". Think about what would require the least movement and effort to get a useful object into your hands, and go from there.
Big Hint: Your sleeves are right next to your hands, why someone doesn't design a holster for Mouseguns that is right there is beyond me...
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October 25th, 2009 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by
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I guess the most practical thing is simply concealing about your person various items for daily or emergency use.
I don't necessarily like to have everyone knowing ALL the tricks up my sleeve, so I've been known to stash knives, tactical flashlights, magazines, etc, in all sorts of places.
Given the "conventional wisdom" that decries the placement of a bootknife in an actual boot, no one expects it there.
I had a ladyfriend who would remove the pocket material from her skirt pockets to allow access to the knife strapped to her thigh.
I love things that can be hidden along forearms and in armpits. A little extra stitching and a good piece of denim in an advantageous spot can give you a knife or magazine at either end of either sleeve.
Mostly it comes from what I call "Practical Laziness". Think about what would require the least movement and effort to get a useful object into your hands, and go from there.
Big Hint: Your sleeves are right next to your hands, why someone doesn't design a holster for Mouseguns that is right there is beyond me...
Similar to an ankle holster? I've wondered about that, too!
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October 25th, 2009 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Big Hint: Your sleeves are right next to your hands, why someone doesn't design a holster for Mouseguns that is right there is beyond me...
You would think you could use one of those wrist bands with the space for an Ipod to model it after...
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October 28th, 2009 06:58 AM
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So...
Anyone want to come up with something?
I have ideas, but no mousegun...
PM if so.
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October 28th, 2009 07:42 AM
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probably liability reasons. Something to do with where the muzzle can/would point. most holsters make it point down and horizontal sholder rigs make it point behind you. A wrist rig would make it point toward your arm
There is something about firing 4,200 thirty millimeter rounds/min that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
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October 28th, 2009 07:48 AM
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I like the arm rig that James West had in Wild Wild West TV series, and Travis made in Taxi Driver.
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October 28th, 2009 12:53 PM
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Like the little one shot guns that can hang around your neck?
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October 28th, 2009 01:07 PM
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I've done that from time to time, I actually had a belt that stored all kinds of stuff. The oddest thing that actually came in handy was a large sewing needle slid into the stitching of a fifth pocket. I also had a small knife that I hid in the laces of my shoe. Also you can use tape to affix a razor blade under your collar, although a razor blade taped to the back of your belt might work best.
I know not what this "overkill" means.
Honing the knives, Cleaning the longguns, Stocking up ammo.
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October 28th, 2009 04:07 PM
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Would the gun be pointed at your arm, or pointed at everything you point at?
A firearm up my sleeve would be positioned in such a way to have it simply "drop" into my hand.
If I can design it...
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November 26th, 2009 01:21 AM
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Why?
[QUOTE=Alarnik;1344258]Things like replacing boot laces w/550 cord, replacing dog-tag chains w/10lb leader line, etc.QUOTE]
Why did you do this with the laces and chain?
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November 26th, 2009 01:25 AM
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550 cord is infinitely handy (google it to see), and your dogtag chain makes noise. 10lb line is a good alternative.
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Don’t mess with the guy who can barely stand up. His remaining options for self-defense don't include your survival.
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November 26th, 2009 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by
EvilMonk
Would the gun be pointed at your arm, or pointed at everything you point at?
A firearm up my sleeve would be positioned in such a way to have it simply "drop" into my hand.
If I can design it...
Could be interesting,can I have somea dose breath mints and while pointing your gun flies into your outstretched hand in the store
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November 26th, 2009 11:30 PM
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Therein lies the rub...
A wonderful book by Harry Harrison called "Deathworld" described a system that detected the exact tendon placement of someone making the "gun grip" and would oblige the user accordingly.
Science Fiction, yes, but the technology is not far away. Someone just has to design it.
The Western Expansion saw many attempts (some better than others) at the same concept. The device I saw in Virginia City, NV could be rigged to "shoot" a Derringer or a card into one's hand.
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