Another pointless class 3 post.

Another pointless class 3 post.

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    Another pointless class 3 post.

    I wish I could own (not sure I would make all the hoops, MI is hit or miss pro-2A, even though I have a spotless record). Then, even after the hoops, I'm not sure I could afford. If I won the lotto, AR15 / M16 with select fire, semi and burst. Sure, there are many guns to have on a wish list, but this the one that would fill a few SHTF situation and would make for a fun hobby.

    It is never going to happen, but just wondering, what is the estimated cost of licensing and what does a burst fire AR cost?
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    I've seen them on gunbroker from time to time, for about $15,000. Not sure about the licensing fees, I know there is a $200 tax but I'm sure it doesn't stop there...

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    You probably won't find an M16 for civilian ownership under 12,000,then the tax stamp and background check,form 4 has to have a chief LEO sign off on it,can be a Chief of police Sheriff,or Judge.once you own the M16 you can put any fire control group in you want,I prefer safe,semi,full auto,you just learn to shoot controlled bursts.I don't own any class 3 weapons,but a friend of mine owns several,we got him a ciener 22 conversion and now we shoot 22 lr full auto,cheap and a hoot
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    There would also be costs for storage right. I was told you are required to have certain safes, or safes of a certain level. Any truth to that, or is that maybe just some local judge's or sheriff's demand before sigh off?

    Oh, and how about special conditions, can a judge or sheriff write in conditions, like never transported?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanis View Post
    There would also be costs for storage right. I was told you are required to have certain safes, or safes of a certain level. Any truth to that, or is that maybe just some local judge's or sheriff's demand before sigh off?

    Oh, and how about special conditions, can a judge or sheriff write in conditions, like never transported?

    IIRC, there is no requirement that one have any certain "safe" storage...but if one can afford a Class III weapon, one can definitely afford a good safe to keep it in (I most certainly would!).

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    Heres some info. Basic Guidelines
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    No, they can't give conditions--it's all or nothing
    Even if it's"nothing" due to an antigun Sheriff, there is still a way.

    You can form a Trust and you are not required to have an LEO signature and you only get figerprinted once, not everytime for every auto as is it without the trust.
    Its a work around that many people use...and advantageous if you have several Class 3 items suchs as suppressors and such.
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    I have daily access to subguns, M4, and M16s among others. I have to say that there is no way I would pay that much to actually own one. The novelty wears off quickly, and it just isn't as exciting as one might think.
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    I have daily access to subguns, M4, and M16s among others. I have to say that there is no way I would pay that much to actually own one. The novelty wears off quickly, and it just isn't as exciting as one might think.
    There is a lot of truth to that. I'm in the same boat as Sixto. If I had to feed them from my own stash, I seriously doubt that I would waste that kindof money on them.

    The free stuff is fine, but keeping them fed is not only hard on the thumbs, but hard on the wallet.

    The Feds have pretty much made it a rich mans toy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    I have daily access to subguns, M4, and M16s among others. I have to say that there is no way I would pay that much to actually own one. The novelty wears off quickly, and it just isn't as exciting as one might think.
    Yep. I've never prices one, but if the prices quoted in the above posts are accurate, an M4 or M16 are not worth that. To be honest, imo, full auto isn't good for anything other than burning ammo at a range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    I have daily access to subguns, M4, and M16s among others. I have to say that there is no way I would pay that much to actually own one. The novelty wears off quickly, and it just isn't as exciting as one might think.
    This is true, and if the law is changed to allow Class III's that are manufactured after 1986 to be purchased, you are stuck with a firearm that you paid a fortune for.
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    Guys you are correct the novelty wears off quickly. Personally except in a wartime firefight situation never really had a use for full auto, uses up a lot of ammo and is not all that accurate.
    Not sure but I think owning one also allows inspection at any time by the BATFE to make sure it is where it is supposed to be and so on.
    Save the money and go to Knob Creek or to Sturgis during the rally and rent one to play with costs a lot less.
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    I am awaiting my first tax stamp for a can.....I went the trust route & it makes things very simple. Once the trust is set up, you only pay the $200 for each stamp you need.
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    I dove into the class III market back in the 70's when they were cheap. I was able to pick up a 1928 Thompson for $500, a S&W M-76 for $600 and a MAC-10 for $200. Tax stamps, dealer transfers, etc was about another $730.
    I had a cousin that was a US Marshall, so LE approval was no problem. After ATF approves the transfer, you simply pick it up like any other gun from the dealer. After all the hoopla, you still have to fill out the 4473 and then take possession.
    I did have a safe, but it's not required. No one inspects your home or anything. It's pretty much like any other purchase, except for the ATF approval. Given todays requirements, if you qualify to own a handgun or long gun, you qualify to own class III.
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    Given todays requirements, if you qualify to own a handgun or long gun, you qualify to own class III.
    As long as it is legal in your state. Some states dont allow it.
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