.45 LongColt Lever Action Rifle Question

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    .45 LongColt Lever Action Rifle Question

    A coworker was telling me he wanted to sell his .45 LC lever action. I was interested so he brought it to work one day. He handed me the rifle and a box of ammo.

    I was confused at first because the box said .44 Magnum (or Special can't exactly remember.)

    I told him he had the wrong ammo.

    He said that he shot the .44s all the time. He said he was at the store and they were out of .45 LC and the guy behind the counter said that .44s were fine.



    My questions are....

    A: Will the gun chamber and shoot .44?

    B: Could this gun be damaged because of the wrong ammo?

    C: Will the .44s not chamber and he is just confused?


    I'm worried that he may have damaged the gun.

    I didn't know if perhaps it was interchangeable like .38/.357

    I searched google and didn't see anything about .44s being shot in a .45


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    While a 44mag will fit into a 45lc chamber they are not interchangeable. The 44mag case measures .456 and the 45lc case measures .480, a rather large disparity in size. Upon firing the 44mag will swell to the chamber but the higher pressure the 44mag operates at can cause damage to the gun and possibly injury to the shooter.
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    A: Will the gun chamber and shoot .44?

    Read the marking on the side of the rifle for the caliber.

    B: Could this gun be damaged because of the wrong ammo?

    You can damage, the rifle, damage yourself, and others when you pull the trigger if wrong ammo is chambered and dischaged.

    C: Will the .44s not chamber and he is just confused?

    We don't know. Investigate the situation.

    I could talk about 44 special. 44 mag. 45 shofield, or 45 long colt. However,
    First find out if the rifle is safe. Then only shoot the ammo specified.

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    The guy behind the counter is an idiot. Not only is he a liability to himself, but he is a liabilty to the company that he works for.

    DO NOT shoot .44 magnum ammo in a rifle that is marked for .45 Colt.

    There is a major difference in operating pressure, the 44 Magnum being much higher.

    While you may have gotten away with it thus far, you are playing the odds and its only a matter of time until something gives.
    When it does and you hurt yourself, every one will say..."well dummy its says .45 Colt, not .44 Magnum.

    Dont do it. You are asking for trouble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns View Post
    The guy behind the counter is an idiot. Not only is he a liability to himself, but he is a liabilty to the company that he works for.

    DO NOT shoot .44 magnum ammo in a rifle that is marked for .45 Colt.

    There is a major difference in operating pressure, the 44 Magnum being much higher.

    While you may have gotten away with it thus far, you are playing the odds and its only a matter of time until something gives.
    When it does and you hurt yourself, every one will say..."well dummy its says .45 Colt, not .44 Magnum.

    Dont do it. You are asking for trouble.
    I haven't shot it. I wouldn't. I figured he had been wrong. Perhaps I'll see if he'll let me take it to a gunsmith to check out.
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    Good.
    Glad to hear it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsee11789 View Post
    He said that he shot the .44s all the time. He said he was at the store and they were out of .45 LC and the guy behind the counter said that .44s were fine.


    Truly an accident waiting to happen.

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    Find what store told him that, and never shop there.

    What brand of firearm is it. Some are built much stronger than others, so the firearm could be ok, but really only if it is checked out by a qualified gunsmith.

    Metal stress is a progressive thing as well, sure it could be fine now, but the damage could already be started. Think like a chip in your cars windshield.
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    The world is full of idiots, and some villege is looking for its missing one.

    I'd have it inspected by a gunsmith before I shot/bought it. HUGE difference between .44 Mag and 45 LC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsee11789 View Post
    A coworker was telling me he wanted to sell his .45 LC lever action. I was interested so he brought it to work one day. He handed me the rifle and a box of ammo.

    I was confused at first because the box said .44 Magnum (or Special can't exactly remember.)

    I told him he had the wrong ammo.

    He said that he shot the .44s all the time. He said he was at the store and they were out of .45 LC and the guy behind the counter said that .44s were fine.


    My questions are....

    A: Will the gun chamber and shoot .44?

    B: Could this gun be damaged because of the wrong ammo?

    C: Will the .44s not chamber and he is just confused?


    I'm worried that he may have damaged the gun.

    I didn't know if perhaps it was interchangeable like .38/.357

    I searched google and didn't see anything about .44s being shot in a .45


    Thanks,
    As said before, this rifle is an accident waiting to happen.

    I would stay a LOOOONG way away from this rifle. There may not be any noticeable damage at this time, but it is almost certain to have been greatly over stressed firing 44mag in a 45lc chamber.
    Even having it inspected may not show the fine stress cracks unless your gunsmith can floriscope(sp) it.
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    A .45 Colt lever rifle can be such a wonderful gun to have! What model is it and did you buy it?

    And as you know by now... shooting the wrong caliber in any gun (with a few exceptions such as .38 spl. in a .357 magnum or .44 spl. in a .44 magnum or .45 Colt in a .454 Casull) is a HUGE mistake. That guy at the gun shop should be fired immediately.

    Before firing any ammo with a different caliber marking in a gun not matching that caliber, you MUST do the research to determine the appropriateness. As I said above, there are cases where it's not a problem. But generally speaking it's a REALLY bad idea.
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