Why Rem and Mossburg?

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    Why Rem and Mossburg?

    It seems like most choose either the 870, 1100, 11-87, or the mosburg 500 as their shottie's. I don't read alot about the Ithaca 37 or 87 here. Am I alone here in thinking the Ithaca 37 riot gun is about the ulimate shottie? Bottom feed, bottom eject, slam fire, 8shot, perfect balance, handles like a exotic sports car. Man I love the 37.

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    From all I hear it does indeed seem the Ithaca is very much ''up there''. Not so sure I have not heard some good also for a Benelli.

    I guess for most folks tho cost is very much a factor, as both Mossy's and 870's in particular seem to come over as great value. I'd like better than my 870 or Mossy 500 but in terms of bang-for-buck, they are well adequate for me.
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    I was considering the Fabarm shotguns, quite nice, smooth slide. But will likely replace my 500 with a 590.

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    I carried a 37 for a while way back when. We liked them for the reasons that you mentioned above. Ours had a "choke"system that we called the duckbill. It was designed to disburse the pattern of (??) horizonally. They are one of the most sturdy shotguns ever built.

    Today I own a Benelli M1 Super 90 and a Rem.11-87 SPS-T. Both of these I use all year for different critters. The Benelli got two more kills to its credit a couple of nights ago. The Rem.,with it's total black color and 21" bbl. is used for crow, and other stuff,hunting. It has several thousand rds thru it.

    I also have a Moss500 that I use for my bedroom weapon. All of these weapons I would highly reccommend. The Rem. needs several new parts(piston,piston seal,and bbl seal) every few hundred rds. But they are cheap and easy to come by. Also the 11-87's will only handle full power loads, so the book sez. I have never shot the light target loads thru mine. I can tell you one thing,it will shoot my extremely heavy handloads (1 1/2oz @ 1380) pretty damn good. (AA hulls only)

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    RSSZ, I own the 100, 11-87 and agree that you can't use low brass or any "light" load for that matter as you won't get a reliable cycle. My 870 has never let me down, but I don't use them that much cause I am a Ithaca fan and have a 37 20 ga sid bell edition I use for rabbit hunting, 12 ga featherlight deerslayer I use for shotgun deer hunting, and my riot gun which I use for home defence (just bought it to replace the one I sold a few years ago)
    A good friend of mine has the super 90 Benelli, and for me i can hit more and better with the 'ol 37 riot. As a side note anything that JMB designed you can't go wrong with.

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    The Ithaca's have been in and out of production for awhile now.

    Are they even being made again?

    If I could get a decent deal on a good used Ithaca I'd buy it in a heart beat.

    But I can go find Remimgton or Mossberg to buy any day of the week.

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    I don't want a combat gun that loads and ejects through the same port.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CombatEffective
    I don't want a combat gun that loads and ejects through the same port.
    I think you need to become more fimilar with the Ithaca's operation before you pass judgement on them. They are 1 of the best designes out there.

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    Ithacas are very solid shotguns, The 37 allowed the slam firing. The 87 has a disconnect. When they jam they jam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris s
    When they jam they jam.
    The only time I have ever seen a Ithaca 37 or 87 jam is when brencie shells (SP?) were used. They are measureed in MM not inches and they are slightly longer tha the regular 2 3/4" shell.
    The 37 only was a slam fire up till a certain year (don't remember when) then they were not slam fires.
    The 37 or 87 is a rock solid platform no matter how you look at it (YMMV)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glockman17
    I think you need to become more fimilar with the Ithaca's operation before you pass judgement on them. They are 1 of the best designes out there.
    What makes you think that I am not familiar with the design?
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    I like the Ithaca's very well, have a 1967 Navy contract.



    IIRC, they were slam-fires up until 1972. The 87 was just a 37 chambered for the 3" shells.

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    The 37 is a nice shotty. I have the DSPS Riot barrel on mine.
    Functioning has been forever flawless.
    It never misses a beat.
    Receiver machined out of a solid block of steel.
    A ton of chambering & ejection power.
    I'm very happy with mine.
    The problem with it...not very many add on accesories ever available for it but, I'm not much of shotgun doo dad sort of a guy. I just want a shotty that Bangs every single time and the Ithaca has never failed...nope, not even once.
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    To answer your question why always mossberg or remington - simple, they have both been proven time and time again. Like mentioned above there are other good options as well. My main shotty for home defense is a mossberg 500, but I have an ithica as well. Both are wonderful works of engineering. I've had no trouble with either. I dont shoot the ithica much due to its a 16 gauge and ammo is kinda scarce. Good gun though.

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