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    The concept has worked for the Russians for decades.

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    I have always felt like a blow back or operating gas rod system may be more reliable
    due to ease of maintenance and lack of carbon build up. Still, one cannot deny the success of the gas system of the AR. Someone brought it to my attention that carbon is actually desirable, as it is a natural, dry lubricant, although the build up should be kept in check.

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    Pooping where you eat is never a good idea.
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    Yeah the big prob with the AR design is that it "does it's business" where it eats. Bad, bad, bad. As Jules said in Pulp Fiction, "I don't trust an animal without the sense to disregard its own feces." :)
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    DI AR and M-16's seem to have worked well over time. While a piston system may be better in some cases DI isn't all that bad. Great vid Qkshooter.
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    Cool. Either way seems to, and has proven to work.

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    Not really a "Yea" or "Nay" thread as I pretty much just put the VID on the forum as an educational visual illustratration of the difference between the two systems. It's decent animation.

    Of course & as always though feel free to "weigh in" with any on topic comments or personal experiences on either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter View Post
    Not really a "Yea" or "Nay" thread as I pretty much just put the VID on the forum as an educational visual illustratration of the difference between the two systems. It's decent animation.

    Of course & as always though feel free to "weigh in" with any on topic comments or personal experiences on either.
    This topic tends to get heated really quickly, with the AR fans and detractors weighing in with their respective opinions.

    Having carried an M16 in combat conditions, my choice in a personal defensive carbine is a Mini 14. FWIW.

    Nice video!
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    I think if our military ever issues a new battle rifle, It will probably be a gas piston operated rifle.

    It's hard to argue that keeping dirty gases and heat out of the heart of a rifle is a bad thing.
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    What is the biggest disadvantage with a Piston design? I know with the AK, you have much more rearward mass, meaning more recoil. (Correct?) Same principle with piston ARs? Why would you not want one? Price?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueNinjaGo View Post
    What is the biggest disadvantage with a Piston design? I know with the AK, you have much more rearward mass, meaning more recoil. (Correct?) Same principle with piston ARs? Why would you not want one? Price?
    Price, complexity, some extra weight, recoil, perhaps not quite as modular. That said, I will only buy rifles that use a piston/op rod design. I like my rifle to run cleaner and cooler. Just my preference.
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    The video does sum it up nicely. Thanks for sharing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10thmtn View Post
    This topic tends to get heated really quickly, with the AR fans and detractors weighing in with their respective opinions.

    Having carried an M16 in combat conditions, my choice in a personal defensive carbine is a Mini 14. FWIW.

    Nice video!

    I agree with you. Same experience. Although I do like the AR due to intimatly familiar. I think the mini 14 is the easiest to maintain in the long run.

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