This is a discussion on Defense Shotgun , Semi or Pump, Rem or Moss? within the Defensive Rifles & Shotgun Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by nedrgr21 Pump being racked, semi-auto bolt slamming home - same, same; just noise; tactically unsound; damn sure I'm not gonna give away ...
The number of people killed because they didn't have "enough gun" is dwarfed by those who had none at all.
Moss 590a1 or Rem 870P will do just fine
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Buy both, 870 and 590a1 (that's what I did). Why not?
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I have a Remington 1100, 1187 POLICE and a Beretta 1200. I prefer the Beretta for home defense. I've fired it hundreds of times and have yet to experience a malfunction. I carried it many years as a LEO and it was totally reliable. It cycles with anything I put into it. Comes with a synthetic stock and chrome bore. Don't know if it's still in production, but you could probably find a used one.
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That's exactly what I did. Since I'm not a big shotgun shooter - I only practice with it occasionally at the range, don't hunt or do trap/skeet shooting - I need something that is guaranteed to work when I need it. The pump action makes more sense to me.I personally chose the Mossberg 500 pump. Added a folding pistol grip stock, side saddle shell holder mounted to receiver, strap, and a tac light
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I have a Remington 870 Express Magnum HD that functions flawlessly. It's reliable and easy to operate. I leave that guy in the home all the time, even when I am hunting. I have a 870 Express Super that goes a'hunting with me while the wife stays home with some protection.
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I have a Remington 870 Express in 20 gauge and a Mossberg 500APR in 12 gauge. I personally like the safety a tiny bit more on the mossbergs, but I can easily adapt to either. Cleaning... I prefer the Remington 100%. So much simpler when comparing the 2 individual models. (This is all my opinion based on my experience. YMMV)
What I've really been looking at is a Saiga 12. Something about it won't leave me alone.
Thanks for all the feedback. The gun dealer hasn't gotten back with me yet, but I am leaning toward the 1187P now.
personally have a moss 500 and when i got it a few years back i pick it up with a HD package from mossberg came with a 18.5" barrel and a 24" w/ a pistol grip and standard stock. love being able to switch out the barrel and do some trap shooting.
Glad you can afford to buy what you want new. Buying or building, The possibilities are endless.
Money is real tight around my place so I had to be patient and "build" one the way I wanted it. This was about 2 years ago that I collected what I wanted while being frugal. It was kinda fun too.
It's a Mossy.
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I love my semi auto shotguns, I have several. I hunt with semi auto and shoot clays with a semi auto. But, I prefer the 870P above all others for a defensive shotgun. The 590 is OK, but it just isnt balanced right.
No matter what you choose, pony up the money and take a shotgun course at a reputable shooting school. Its a ton of fun and you'll learn a lot.
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The Mossberg 500 12 ga "3 in 1" Home Defense. Hunting, cruiser w/ 18.5 & 28" Bbl. Is a great firs shotgun with lots of options at a very reasonable price. The Mossberg 500 Field/Security combo 12 ga (2.75) 18.5 & 28" bbl. is also a good choice.
The Remington 870 express is a great shotgun for the money.
If you want to spend more, The Remington 870 Police or the Mossberg 590A! Special Purpose, the Remington 870 Marine 18", Remington 887 Nitro Magnum Tactical 18.5" (w/picatinny rail).
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