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November 25th, 2010 05:14 AM
My current outdoor range entertainment has been paper targets from a bench rest at 100-200 yards with a Colt 16" AR-15. Very accurate, 1.5 moa groups, but it has become expensive at about 400 rounds per weekend. To slow down this ammo game a little bit, I placed an order for a Weatherby Vanguard bolt action rifle which is advertised to be pretty accurate. Anyone have any experience with this gun ? Any estimates on how long the barrel might last ? Would appreciate your input.
November 25th, 2010 08:44 AM
No experience with that rifle, but the .223 isn't particularly hard on barrels, not like the .22-250 and such. I've got a Rem 788 .223 I bought back in '80. It hadn't been fired in 20 years, so I broke it out last week and it shot sub-inch groups @100yards. Many a rockchuck became coyote food because of this tackdriver.
At the rate you're using ammo, I hope you're reloading. It's a great way to "tune" a round for your particular gun. All I ever used was 5.56 brass with mid-range loads; hot loads never proved more accurate (often the opposite) or more effective. Speer 55 grn SPBT was my preferred bullet. If I did my part, the 788 would shred a quarter all day long at 100 yds. I'm sure the Weatherby will do the same. Great little cartridge!
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November 25th, 2010 10:21 PM
Well, thats pretty good news. My Colt AR has about 7k rounds thru it at this point and the accuracy hasn't deteriorated much; if I can get 10k rounds each thru it and the Weatherby, that'd be good. Those .223s @ 3,000 fps burn pretty hot and that was my concern. Haven't gotten into reloading yet. I rationalize my laziness by concluding in my mind that the savings aren't all that much on .223s when the cost of equipment and time, etc. is considered.
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November 25th, 2010 10:29 PM
With any bolt action rifle, I'm one of the fans that says reload for it. With a semi-auto, you'll never get out of it what you'll put into it IMO.
Originally Posted by CURMUDGEON5
November 25th, 2010 11:35 PM
Thats a good point ........ reload to optimize the accuracy of a particular gun; gotta give that a little more consideration after I get involved with the new Weatherby.
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