Compact shotgun: Do I need a federal License?

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    Compact shotgun: Do I need a federal License?

    My current HD shotgun is a Mossberg 590 A1 with an 18.5" barrel. It's a great piece of hardware but a bit large to move easily through the house. I am considering the 14" barrel version. I am a non-LEO, CCL, Georgia resident. Does anyone know if there are any special licensing requirements to own one of these?

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    Oh yea. NFA SBS. I'll let some of the boards FFLs explain for you. In addition your state must allow SBS, some don't.
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    You will need to become a "stamp collector" as in Federal stamp in order to purchase and possess short barreled firearms.

    It's just different strokes for different folks. I never found it troublesome to navigate the interior of my homes with 18-inch barrels.
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    Thanks for the feedback. I suspected as much. Maybe I should just get back out to the range with my 18.5" and reacquaint myself with it! Happy Holidays.

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    If you want the best Short Barrel Shotgun, go to Wilson Combat (Scattergun Technologies).

    Wilson Combat bought out Scattergun Technologies about 10-12 years ago and took over their operation of making the finest short barreled shotguns. They'll also walk you through the process with the Feds for getting your Tax Stamp.

    If you have an old beat up Remington 870 and just want to jazz it up, modernize it, and turn it into a combat worthy fighting shotgun, you can send them your Rem 870 and they'll totally rework it for you under their Remington Steal program for a very competitive price.

    I hated hearing Scattergun Technologies was going out of business because they built the best combat shotguns, but when I heard that Bill Wilson actually bought them out, I knew it was going to be a good thing. Especially if he kept their "Remington Steal" deal for rebuilding customer supplied 870's, which he did.

    You can get their shotguns with 12, 14 or 18 inch barrels. NFA rules apply for the 12 & 14 inch guns. But with the 18 inch barrels, you don't need that extra $200 tax stamp.

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    Absolutely agree with Bark'n's recommendation of the Scattergun Technologies 870 redo. You won't be disappointed. $230 for the bare-minimum re-do is a bargain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by K4Kimber View Post
    Thanks for the feedback. I suspected as much. Maybe I should just get back out to the range with my 18.5" and reacquaint myself with it! Happy Holidays.
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    Cool site! Thanks Bark.n!

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    I am and posses exactly what you ask.

    See my latest thread on same here...

    Project SBS: Complete and Function tested
    November 24th, 2010 12:19 AM
    http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...unction-tested

    There have been a number of threads on this subject recent and past.
    Run a query on either "SBS" or "short barrel shotgun"; http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...earchid=311757

    This is my Mossberg 590A1 'Compact' SBS as out of the Law Enforcement Division.
    I am civilian, and never have been a police. But I am and do possess state issue instructor identification whihc is what I'd used, and was accepted by their auth. dealer, toward purchase for personal use.


    Note: That is the result of _slug_ not 00 Buck as during initial sight in at 50 yds. to POA = POI. Off hand standing with no sling nor aid.
    It is tested (as of last Wed.) as being single shot accurate to 100 yds. min....From what is a smooth bore barrel firing rifled slug as factory OEM.

    The gun is OEM with factory options; Speedfeed stock, 14" barrel having tritium rifle sight, and manufactured with a modified type choke rather than cylinder bore which was very rare and is no longer offered as a factory option.
    I've made various sub-system mods to increase it's overall flexibility and by that functionality. Details are in the thread.

    No action work nor barrel porting involved or necessary.
    This gun _runs_ (!), right out of the box.
    My only wish...To have exact same as a second in an 930/935 autoloader receiver & barrel combo.

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    I forgot about your 590 Janq. That is a sweet rod. And I do prefer Mossberg over the Rem. Nice weapon there buddy!
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    My Benelli is getting mad at me.Now im thinking of the Wilson 12 inch professional.I think i hear my M2 crying...

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    Makes me wanna go get a well used 870 just to send to Wilson LOL Love the looks of their package.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwhite75 View Post
    Makes me wanna go get a well used 870 just to send to Wilson LOL Love the looks of their package.
    I would say anyone needing a combat ready defensive shotgun, go buy a used 870 from a pawn shop on the cheap, and send it to Wilson!
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    Agreed Bark'N. ^^
    In fact that is the only way I'd roll toward specifically a Remington SBS project...Aside from being lucky enough to grab one used from a .GOV agency sale.

    Several months ago I saw that Botach was retailing 870 SBS barrels as OEM for just over $200, NFA fee excluded.
    For someone who already owns an 870 receiver this too might be a viable option. I'd then have that barrel threaded for an internal RemChoke system and from there be _very_ happy.

    Myself I am toward my own project gun very seriously thinking to send off the receiver only to be fully NP3 coated.
    OEM it is parkerized and already just from me running dummy ammo based drills with it the receiver is marred and scratched.
    As I expect to keep this gun as a long term investment I'm thinking the cost will be amortized over a scale of decades rather than years...And it'll reduce internal wear significantly while also reducing action & trigger friction.

    Glocksin do know that Benelli makes SBS shotguns & barrels too...

    Benelli NOVA Entry 14.5" Ghost Ring Sight

    Source - http://www.impactguns.com/store/650350210019.html

    Benelli Super 90 M1 SBS w/ 14" barrel and Benelli Super 90 M1 w/ 18.5" barrel:

    Source - http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=1&t=203798

    A Benelli M3 with a 14" barrel as an SBS _and_ having the barrel threaded for a choke would be The Ticket!!!

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