Home Defense/SHTF Rifle Options?

Home Defense/SHTF Rifle Options?

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    Home Defense/SHTF Rifle Options?

    Can anyone name a few good rifle options for home and SHTF? I already have the AR and AK on the list. I was also looking at an m1 carbine from auto ordinance or an m1 garand.

    Any other options for $800 or less?
    Just looking to put together a short list to research.


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    Why not more ammo and mags for what you already have?

    ETA: Ooops I see it's only a list. You could add an SKS. But to be honest I'd just work on your existing list.
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    I am very happy with my Ruger Mini 14 Ranch rifle. The newer ones (have a tapered barrel) are very accurate. I prefer the action of the Mini to the direct gas AR design. The Mini is waaay more accurate than an AK. And the price is in your ballpark. Mags cost more than AR mags, but I do not feel I need 20 mags for my rifle.

    I have a 3-9 x variable scope on mine. Keep it set at 3x for close-in (the most likely scenario). I can always dial in more magnification if needed, but in my suburban neighborhood I cannot see more than 200 yards max, so...

    That said - do you have a shotgun? My go-to long gun is my Remington 870 pump. Not too much that I would need to do that the shotgun cannot handle.
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    A hot rodded Saiga 12 shotgun makes all other obsolete.
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    For rifles, Mini-14, M-1 Carbine, a decent Galil, SKS, DSA has some FAL clones right around $1,000, Saiga's in whatever caliber you want.

    Some more unique choices, a lever action, either in .30-30, or .357 and paired with a revolver. A decent bolt action with decent glass can be had for under $800, not gonna win competitions probably, but would get the job done.
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    Lets see here... Ruger Mini-14, SKS, Kel-Tec SU-16. Thats a nice small list.

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    Depending on your definition of "SHTF", if you're in survival mode a Ruger 10/22 is close to indispensible. Compact, light, easy to shoot and a the gun with a couple of bricks of .22 take up little room.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns View Post
    A hot rodded Saiga 12 shotgun makes all other obsolete.
    Interesting. Not sure I like the idea of plastic shot shells in a vertical magazine for long periods of time...possible shell deformation issues there??

    Their standard magazines don't hold more shells than you can get in an extended tube on a pump or conventional semi-auto. A full reload would be quicker, but you can top off a tube mag more easily than a detachable one. I don't think you will be emptying your shotgun in most defensive scenarios...if you are, you are in deep trouble and should have probably grabbed your rifle out of the safe instead.
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    Thanks for the input. It gives me a few others to look into. I currently have a mossberg 500 and 10/22.

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    "I am very happy with my Ruger Mini 14 Ranch rifle. The newer ones (have a tapered barrel) are very accurate."

    FYI Folks should be made aware of the fact that the Ruger Minis have been retooled/respeced and are now being made on all new machinery with tight tolerances.
    They have really radically improved the rifle but, it's not a budget firearm anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns View Post
    A hot rodded Saiga 12 shotgun makes all other obsolete.
    The beauty of American Capitalism...take a 500 dollar gun and make 2-3000 in mods. LOL

    To the OP. I think the Kel-tec SU-16s are great options. Also dont rule out a pistol caliber carbine such as the Kel-tec Sub 2000 and Ruger PC9/40 systems. The SKS availability to price ratio is excellent as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 10thmtn View Post
    Interesting. Not sure I like the idea of plastic shot shells in a vertical magazine for long periods of time...possible shell deformation issues there??

    Their standard magazines don't hold more shells than you can get in an extended tube on a pump or conventional semi-auto. A full reload would be quicker, but you can top off a tube mag more easily than a detachable one. I don't think you will be emptying your shotgun in most defensive scenarios...if you are, you are in deep trouble and should have probably grabbed your rifle out of the safe instead.
    While you are right the factory mag only holds 5 shells you can purchase 25 round drums for this or 12 round mags. If i had my back the the wall and had to get out i would like the saiga 12 with 00 buck and 3-4 12rd mags.
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    HD and SHTF Rifle I consider two different needs in general.

    For HD: My Mossberg 500 with 18.5" barrel or Remington 1100 20" Tactical would get the job.
    For SHTF Rifle for 2 legged: An AK, M1 Carbine, Marlin 1894c 357 or Kel-tec SU16c (folding rifle option) would be my choices.
    For SHTF Rifle for hunting small game: Ruger 10/22
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