Mini 14 Fun

Mini 14 Fun

This is a discussion on Mini 14 Fun within the Defensive Rifles & Shotgun Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; The Mini 14 and I took a trip to the range yesterday. This is one of the newer 581 series. A local dealer recently added ...

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    Mini 14 Fun

    The Mini 14 and I took a trip to the range yesterday. This is one of the newer 581 series. A local dealer recently added a nice Leupold AR scope to the rifle and I was itching to try it out.

    There was a light breeze crossing from right to left and the temperature was in the mid 30's. I had a number of boxes of Winchester 5.56 55 gr rounds with me.

    I could not get on paper at 100 yards. I backed down to 50 yards and still could not get on paper. In desparation, I went to 15 yards and still nothing! Supposedly the dealer had bore sighted the scope - I don't see how.

    Rather than waste the day and a whole lotta ammo, I removed the scope and went back to the iron sights. I love iron sights.

    This was my best effort at 100 yards (see attachment). Note I said my best effort, not the Mini 14's best effort. I'm getting older - hate to admit that - and the target is one tiny blur at 100 yards. I fired 9 shots total in 3 shot strings. 8 of 9 rounds landed on paper.

    The first group was left and verticle. The next group was low and centered with 2 shots off the paper.

    I used a bit of Kentucky windage for the third group. 2 of 3 shots found the diamond, and the 3rd was just outside.

    The Mini 14 is a fine shooter. Accurate enough for home defense and shtf needs. At 25 yards I can group 3 shots touching if I do my part. At 50 yards I can keep a 3 - 4 inch group. At 100 yards, well, lets just say I don't see so good anymore, but torso hits are not a problem.

    My Mini 14 shoots just a bit to the left. I probably need to twist the front sight barrel band a bit if I can find instructions for doing so. I have put up with it for a bit, but maybe it is time for a serious adjustment.

    I like my Mini 14 over my AR's for a couple of reasons. One is realibility and ruggedness. I like the peep sights on the rifle, and the rifle fits well. I still like my AR's too, but I shoot a whole lot better with the Mini 14, and that is kinda the point, isn't it?
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    i ran a gun shop for 3 years.. we sold many.... i know a few friends that have them... i never saw 1 that could stay on a paper plate at 100... they blow..

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    I can tell you right now, your trouble is not your eyes or the gun. Its your aiming reference point. By looking at your target , I can tell you are using a center mass aim. Change to a six oclock position, and adjust your sights for that POI. That gun will shoot just fine, and you will too.

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    I have one of the older stainless thin barrel mini's that is really a dog in the accuracy dept, scoped or open sights. I finally decided to let it just be a safe fixture. Your 581 has more metal in the barrel and should shoot somewhat better than mine, but I have never seen a mini 14 or 30 that was what I would consider to be really accurate. With that said, I have not seen or shot the tactical versions that I understand to be very accurate.

    They are a fun and very reliable rifle that will bang out lots of rounds for years without an issue although they seem to prefer Ruger mags.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ring View Post
    i ran a gun shop for 3 years.. we sold many.... i know a few friends that have them... i never saw 1 that could stay on a paper plate at 100... they blow..
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    I have a Mini 30 "ranch" with a 3-9x variable scope,I've taken a few deer with it had one at about 200 yards and hit her right where I was aiming,My my AR's are a lot more accurate,but in Ks ya can't hunt deer with a 223.I now have an AR upper in 7.62x39
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    Quote Originally Posted by atctimmy View Post
    That's what I love about this forum. Nothing but class here. Yup, nothing but class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ring View Post
    i ran a gun shop for 3 years.. we sold many.... i know a few friends that have them... i never saw 1 that could stay on a paper plate at 100... they blow..
    I dunno...I have one of the newer Mini 14 Ranch rifles, with a 3-9 X scope. Got groups less than 2" across at 100 yards with cheap ammo and a hot barrel. Works for me.
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    I've always liked Minis.

    Of course, I liked them a heck of a lot MORE when they cost less than an AR-15.
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    I had an older model. I took a piece of cardboard about the size of the average mans torso and put a shirt on it, set it up at 200 yards and with the open sites from a field sitting position, proceeded to ventilate the target. 20 rounds in the mag, and 20 holes in the cardboard and shirt.

    This is what the mini was designed for, and I think it performs very well. I actually prefer it's operating system to the AR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockman10mm View Post
    I had an older model. I took a piece of cardboard about the size of the average mans torso and put a shirt on it, set it up at 200 yards and with the open sites from a field sitting position, proceeded to ventilate the target. 20 rounds in the mag, and 20 holes in the cardboard and shirt.

    This is what the mini was designed for, and I think it performs very well. I actually prefer it's operating system to the AR.
    Same here, I too, prefer the operating system over the AR. My eyes won't allow me to shoot out to 200 yards anymore, at least I have not tried it. But out to 100 yards, torso its are not a problem. It is what the mini was designed for, and it does it well.

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    I owned a mini 14 years ago and it was definitely not a tack driver, however, a friend of mine has a new one that is just as accurarte as my AR-15. A bad rap for accuracy is hard to overcome, but things have changed.

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    I'm curious as to how someone would bore-sight a scope on a mini. FWIW, I have had a Mini-14 for about 16 years, and I absolutely love it. Mine is a great, reliable, combat accurate rifle. Every time I have to clean my AR, I like my Mini just that much more. Mini-14's are kind of like Taurus handguns. There are a lot of myths and old wife's tales being passed along by gun-store commandos, who have never fired one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pioneer View Post
    I'm curious as to how someone would bore-sight a scope on a mini.
    I'd say not very well from my experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pioneer View Post
    I'm curious as to how someone would bore-sight a scope on a mini. FWIW, I have had a Mini-14 for about 16 years, and I absolutely love it. Mine is a great, reliable, combat accurate rifle. Every time I have to clean my AR, I like my Mini just that much more. Mini-14's are kind of like Taurus handguns. There are a lot of myths and old wife's tales being passed along by gun-store commandos, who have never fired one.
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