TOZ-106, a product of gun laws
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Here, in Russia, we can't buy conventional pistols, but can buy shotguns with barrel ...
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Post By OldVet
March 20th, 2011 05:10 AM
TOZ-106, a product of gun laws
As a glossary: ТОЗ reads like TOZ, МЦ reads like MTs.
Here, in Russia, we can't buy conventional pistols, but can buy shotguns with barrel or barrel + receiver not shorter than 500mm and total length not less than 800mm. If gun is foldable, it shall not bee able to shoot while being shorter than 800mm.
In late 80's and almost all 90's, after the fall of Soviet Union, there was a rise of crime and people need some firearms to stay alive. (It's not not too safe here now, however, but much, much safer than in early 90's). Gun factories in SU made only single- and double-barrelled break-open shotguns, МЦ-21-12 semi-auto (a clone of Browning Auto-5), and МЦ-20-01, which is a 20Ga bolt-action shotgun.
So, in 90's, factories started to make something new - such as reborn Saiga shotguns, Иж-81 pump-action which was later remade into MP-133 (pretty crappy), Рысь and РБ-12 reverse pump actions (they have moving barrel attached to pump, first one had the magazine over the barrel and was DAO, second one had detachable magazine), and, finally, МЦ-20-08 and ТОЗ-106 shotguns.
МЦ-20-08 is a sawn-off version of МЦ-20-01. 500mm cylinder barrel, no stock.
Not very useful. Much more popular gun is ТОЗ-106, that's mine:
It has 295mm cylinder barrel, is 530mm long with stock folded (but it can't shoot in this state - the trigger is locked) and 810mm long unfolded. It makes it the shortest legal shotgun on Russian market.
It uses detachable box magazines. Standard magazine are 2-round, 4-round are available but require extensive use of a rasp due to being made by some drunk pupils of alcoholic turner. However, it's possible, with rasp, dremel and such devices to make a 5-round magazine using standard 2-round one and 5-round one from Saiga-20. Maybe it's even possible to make 8-rd and 10-rd one, but I never seen them.
In practice, I use magazines only when I carry it somewhere in my rucksack, just in case. While shooting it on a shooting range, it's much more practical and faster not to use them at all, but to load shells one at a time.
Of course, shooting standard rounds with shot and buckshot is not very good idea because of very limited practical range. It's better to handload them, not use shot cup, but a plain wad instead, and put shot or buckshot in paper or film cylinder.
Shooting slugs, however, is very fun with this gun. I use the cheapest 20ga slug ammo available (Record, usually pretty crappy) and it's possible to shoot at 50 meters in target with the size of human head.
Unfolding stock is extremely simple - just slightly push it down and let it go. Folding is little more difficult - stock must be pulled back and then folded.
And, finally, some humor - that's what happens when you can't have a pistol but really want to
March 20th, 2011 05:10 AM
March 20th, 2011 08:38 AM
I really like the TO3-106, not sure why, but I do. Thanks for the information, I always find it interesting on gun laws / firearms from other countries.
March 20th, 2011 10:57 AM
You cant own a Saiga ? They make them there is Russia.
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March 20th, 2011 12:10 PM
You lost me with the "mm" stuff. 9mm and 10MM I get, but 500mm?
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March 20th, 2011 03:37 PM
I can own a Saiga (it's pretty popular, especially K versions), but it has different purpose as it's much bigger. And I don't really like semi-autos.
500mm is 19.7 inches (minimum barrel or barrel + receiver length), 800mm is 31.5 inches (minimum total length in shootable state), 295mm is 11.6 inches (TOZ-106 barrel length).
March 22nd, 2011 03:20 PM
So how many more years do you have to go until you're eligible for your pistol license? I was told that in Russia, after you've legally owned a shotgun for 5 years, you could apply to own a pistol. Is that true?
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March 22nd, 2011 03:31 PM
Interesting stuff OP, makes me appreciate the USA a little more. Nice to know you at least have some options there.
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March 22nd, 2011 04:34 PM
Can you obtain licenses to carry a concealed pistol there? I thought I read a news story (maybe last year) that a lot more people were getting permits to carry concealed pistols in Moscow. Does a pistol permit also include permission to carry it with you?
March 22nd, 2011 04:55 PM
We can't own conventional pistols, only less-lethal ones. We have one license for all - to own, to buy and to carry. Since July, less-lethal pistols will be bought like shotguns and rifles - first you get license to buy, then you buy a gun, and get permit to carry and own.
We don't have licenses for concealed carry - if you own a shotgun or rifle as a hunter, you can carry it while hunting or on sport events (or take it anywhere in some case and unloaded), if you own a less-lethal pistol - you can carry it as you like.
5 years are about buying a rifle - if you lawfully own a hunting shotgun for 5 years, you can now buy rifles. I have 2.5 years to go.
March 26th, 2011 10:51 PM
what does a less lethal pistol shoot?
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March 27th, 2011 03:48 AM
Rubber bullets. There are less-lethal pistols that look like pistols and shoot 0.7-1 gram bullets, and there are barrelless and shoot 12 gram bullets, I told about them there:
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