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    The old saying "garbage in garbage out" applies to more than computers, it applies to ammunition as well. I never understood undertaking the cost of a quality AR system only to feed it the cheapest crap you could find. I'll stick to quality bulk brass cased ammunition that mimics the POI of my carry ammo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sgb View Post
    The old saying "garbage in garbage out" applies to more than computers, it applies to ammunition as well. I never understood undertaking the cost of a quality AR system only to feed it the cheapest crap you could find. I'll stick to quality bulk brass cased ammunition that mimics the POI of my carry ammo.
    When shooting a couple hundred rounds on drills at 5 to 15 yards with an AR, there's no advantage to usig the bes ammo to average ammo. POI will be 1.5" to 2" below POA regardless. When taking a 1,000 to 2,000 round carbine course, again there's no advantage as it's not a precision course. I probably wouldn't take Wolf, but I don't need TAP either. Actually, I've yet to attend a class where anyone was running high quality ammo. 855 or 193 is pretty common as is other training ammo. When running drills on your own time, there's really no problem with running cheap ammo as it won't affect anything remotely important in the way of speed or accuracy.

    Even at 100 yards, as long as the weight is the same, the only difference is that the groups may be 3 or 4 MOA as opposed to 1.5 or 2 MOA, and that's only if you're trying for accuracy anyway and not just minute of man.

    I ran a case of Hornady training ammo at a class once, and it's steel cased. A good extractor and it's just as reliable and good as brass.
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    I always stock about 4000 rounds of 5.56, and got it all from Widener's, PRVI Partizan M193. He's got it now for around $300 per 1000. Nice 200 round battle packs. I have run 1000's through my AR15 and AR180, never a hiccup, dead accurate.
    He also sells steel core and tracers.
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