The Combat Lever Action Rifle

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    Thunder Ranch With A Not so Urban Rifle.

    http://www.leverguns.com/articles/thunder_ranch.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by OD* View Post
    Thunder Ranch With A Not so Urban Rifle.

    http://www.leverguns.com/articles/thunder_ranch.htm
    Nice article. I have read it before.

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    Pretty slick, ain't it?
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    Two weeks ago, I had a lever-action going side-by-side with AR's and Saiga's in a combat rifle course. Here is a review of the class.
    In a CQB environment, the lever action, a Marlin 1894C was just as effective as the semi-autos.
    The only disadvantage was obviously the slower reloads, but as far as getting 3-5 rounds downrange while getting off the X, this little lever gun performed very well!
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    Been on the fence about a Mini-14. Not into the AR thing, would rather put the cash into a 'reach out and touch someone' rifle. Being from the Northeast, we don't have many long range opportunities. Being from the Northeast, my first big rifle was a '94 in 30-30, used, pre-64. As I had it tapped for a scope mount, it's not worth as much, and after I put a few rounds through it a while back I decided to wipe the smile off my face and keep her. Now I have a plan!

    I wouldn't underestimate the 30-30 cartridge, I sure wouldn't want to get hit with it.

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    An interesting anecdote.

    The lever action rifle (Henry) could well vie for the title of shoulder weapon having killed/wounded the most men in the hands of a single individual in a single day.

    In 1867 during the Hayfield Fight near Fort C F SMith in Montana, a party cutting hay that consisted of around 28 soldiers and civilians were attacked by approximately 800 Sioux, Cheyenne and Arapaho warriors. One civilian, Al Colvin, a civilian war veteran and crack shot was in possession of a new sixteen shot Henry rifle. Estimates are that over the course of eight to ten hours of the fight, he killed and or wounded 250 to 400 warriors, with shots from twenty to one hundred yards.
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    This is an interesting thread and as someone suffering from BRD I really don't need another firearms purchase to think about but the idea of a lever action rifle as a truck gun is interesting to say the least.

    Going back to the Browning BLR one advantage I could see it having over all the others is in caliber selection, whereas the others are mainly the traditional lever action calibers the BLR could be had in 308 or 06. Of course I've always wanted one of the Marlin Guide guns too.
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    I knew a Texas State Trooper that carried a Winchester 94 between the seat and car door.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilowatt3 View Post

    EDITED to add:
    Looks like LeveRevolution for handgun calibers is available in .357 Mag, .44 Mag, and .45 Colt.
    The LEVERevolution .44 Mag load from Hornady is truly awesome when fired from a carbine.

    It fires a 225 gr bullet at a muzzle velocity of 1,870 fps! At 50 yards, it is still travelling 1,629 fps, and delivering 1,325 ft/lbs of energy! Even at 100 yards, it is is going 1,416 fps, and delivering over 1,000 ft/lbs of energy!




    And firing a .44 Mag out of a 6 lb rifle is very pleasant. It is not bad at all.

    If I was to buy one of these rifles it would be the Marlin Model 1894SS, which is a stainless carbine in .44 Mag with a 20 inch barrel.








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    Makes sense if you have a .44 revolver...otherwise I'd choose the .30-30 for true rifle performance.

    Here's the data on the 160 gr LEVERevolution - note that they give data out to 300 yards:

    Hornady Manufacturing Company :: Ammunition :: Rifle :: Choose by Caliber :: 30-30 Win :: 30-30 Win 160 gr FTX® LEVERevolution®
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    Quote Originally Posted by gasmitty View Post
    Colonel Custer would have approved!
    Custer was a POS that got what he had coming. Killed by the women he raped and whose children he butchered. Never ceases to amaze me how folks glorify rapists and baby killers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LongRider View Post
    Custer was a POS that got what he had coming. Killed by the women he raped and whose children he butchered. Never ceases to amaze me how folks glorify rapists and baby killers.

    I may be wrong, but I believe that the Custer remark was tongue in cheek.

    He fell at the Little Big Horn to warriors armed with lever action repeaters, IIRC.

    ETA: Was Custer Outgunned?
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    The braves killed him, it was the squaws that ran sewing awls thru his ears because he wouldn't listen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zacii View Post
    I may be wrong, but I believe that the Custer remark was tongue in cheek.
    In that case my over reaction. Gasmitty does seem like a good guy so nothing personal intended. I simply despise that a scum bag like custer a disgrace to the uniform he wore, is so glorified despite the pompous butcher and baby killer he was in reality.
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    The braves killed him, it was the squaws that ran sewing awls thru his ears because he wouldn't listen.
    According to the elders back home he was alive when the women got to him, correct about the ears also tore him apart, dug his eyes out so the kids could use him as a punching bag in the after life. Hell truly has no fury like an enraged Oglala women. FYI that S word is equivalent to the English C word, about the most vile and vulgar reference to an Indigenous Woman possible. Not something you would want your mother called.

    Sorry about the derail excellent topic and OP. Despite the down sides mentioned it is confirming my reasoning for wanting a .308 Browning BLR as my next gun buy. With modern optics it meets all of Jeff Cooper's criteria for a scout rifle, even though it is not his design,it does fit his criteria. Eliminates the need for dependance on LEVERevolution ammunition expanding my ammo options. Being break down I could throw it inside my pack should discretion be an issue or I just want to pack a carbine on the bike. Mags while expensive do provide me with a quick reload option as well as the ability carry and switch between a variety of different ammo for different needs.
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    This is a great thread!! Thanks for the information. I'm being considered for a job in California...and was looking for an option other than my M4gery. I am seriously considering the combat lever-action rifle option.
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