Coming soon...The MKA 1919, AR-15 style 12 guage shotgun

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    Hmmm...

    I understand detachable box magazines for rifles - even with a higher capacity, the mags are still manageable in size. For larger shotguns shells, however, I'm still not convinced that detachable box mags are the way to go. I just cannot see a civilian defensive scenario where you would need more than 6-8 shells, and where you wouldn't have the time to top off your mag tube (which is something you cannot do with a detachable box mag). I'm also concerned over the possible deformation of plastic shot shells when stored for long periods of time in a vertical mag - they just weren't made for that.

    I'm even starting to really appreciate the lever gun and its tube mag - no need to carry around spare mags, make sure they all will feed properly, etc. All you need is spare ammo in a bag of some kind. Simple.

    Sure, for an all-out zombie attack, I can see needing the firepower, but that's just not too likely.

    In any case, thanks for posting. Looks interesting, and the price seems reasonable too. I'm willing to be convinced that I "need" this...
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    perhaps a bump fire stock would be fun with this, might have to give it a shot, pun not intended
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    You ought to see what Tromix is doing to theirs over at the Saiga forum. It's looking pretty sharp what they've done to it so far.
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    12 Gauge MKA 1919 Shotgun AR

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    Soon to come an AR-15 clone known as the MKA 1919. Its a 12 guage that comes with two magazines, one in the 2.75 and 3" length.

    Its being imported by RAA and the price is around 700 for the black gun and 800 for a camoflaged version.

    It comes with interchangable chokes as is compatible with the WinChoke.

    It looks promising enough that I will own one and I will shortbarrel it,put a collapsible stock on it and make it look "tacticool." It wont be long until aftermarket items like extended mags show up.
    This gun looks like it has lots of potential.



    I am interested in purshasing one of these. Can anyone tell me who carries them?

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    The first 100 have been sent to dealers for trial testing. If all goes well, supposedly they wii be coming in around the Fall. As of right now, they arent available.
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    very cool. i want one of these and a saiga. to bad im broke.

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    I handled one of these at a hunting show 1 year ago in Maryland of all places when ATI was talking about importing them. The reciever is not a standard AR reciever, and the stocks are integrated into the low therefore unless they make a lower with an adjustable stock you will nto be able to bump fire these.
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    Thats fine, I will just machine a bump fire stock onto it. no biggie. although i wonder if that would make it into a destructive device if the stock was perminatley mounted. Hot Guns, you think I'd be legal to do it that way?
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    I got a chance to shoot one and check it out. I have some video of it here:



    You can jump forward to 10:29 in the video to see the shotgun.
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    Thats fine, I will just machine a bump fire stock onto it. no biggie. although i wonder if that would make it into a destructive device if the stock was perminatley mounted. Hot Guns, you think I'd be legal to do it that way.
    Nah, its not classed as a destructive device or it would have a 200 tax stuck on it.As long as the stock wasnt too short to make the legal length, you'd be OK,although, somehow I think that making it into something like a SlideFire stock might be a bit more difficult that you think.
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    Very Cool! Who needs a savings account anyhow?

    MKA-1919 12ga. Semi-Auto Shotgun with Black Stock MKA-1919
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    This item is temporarily out of stock. Backorders are being accepted. Next shipment due to arrive late July.


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    This gun seems like sort of a catch-22 as far as becoming popular enough for aftermarket domestic hi-cap mags being made.... If enough of these aren't sold and if they don't become popular then nobody will invest in designing & manufacturing hi-cap mags for them. On the other hand, the only way I see these becoming popular (especially at their relatively high price point as compared to Saigas) is if there are hi-cap mags available. Great looking rig, and probably functions well, but honestly they need to set up a front operation in the U.S. to manufacture domestic hi-cap mags (at least 8rd) so as to give people a reason to buy them. Hopefully this gun wont become the next Techno Arms Mag-7M1

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    We just got one in the shop and I'm sorry but it gets two thumbs down. Cheap plastic, cheap sights, a canted front sight "gas block", wouldn't cycle low recoil buck at all, and didn't cycle hi brass slugs reliably. The screw in choke wasn't marked and was a sloppy fit. Patterns were ok at 30' but really spread at 60'. Got to play with more loads though before I say anything final about that. It's an "AR" like the old Llamas were 1911s, close enough in looks but not compatible. And worst of all is the safety selector. instead of a red and white painted dot, this thing has a red and white fake gem set into the plastic, looks like it came from a kids toy. Way too cheap and tacky looking. For the money I'd pass or get a Saiga if I could find one for a not-too-inflated price.
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    Damn...I was doing fine following the thread until I saw 1 Old 0311's avatar, now I have no idea what's going on. What were we talking about again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superhouse 15 View Post
    We just got one in the shop and I'm sorry but it gets two thumbs down. Cheap plastic, cheap sights, a canted front sight "gas block", wouldn't cycle low recoil buck at all, and didn't cycle hi brass slugs reliably. The screw in choke wasn't marked and was a sloppy fit. Patterns were ok at 30' but really spread at 60'. Got to play with more loads though before I say anything final about that. It's an "AR" like the old Llamas were 1911s, close enough in looks but not compatible. And worst of all is the safety selector. instead of a red and white painted dot, this thing has a red and white fake gem set into the plastic, looks like it came from a kids toy. Way too cheap and tacky looking. For the money I'd pass or get a Saiga if I could find one for a not-too-inflated price.
    I pointed out these issues in the video above.

    It's my understanding the shotgun is going through some evolutionary changes. We'll see.
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