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    Actually, you would prabably be better served with number 4 in an apartment where penetration could be an issue.

    For that matter, I doubt that anyone could stand a hunting load of number 6 shot. That would be even better for close quarters living.
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    Well lets talk about this. I have 00 in mine but I am very concerned about pentration. I have a two year old on the other side of the house and I have to be careful about the direction I fire in. Would #4 Buck be better in that respect? I know some folks in my predicament load with birdshot but I don't agree with that school of thought. There is not nearly enough penetration most of the time even at inside range.

    C'mon guys lets debate this.
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    Well...look at it like this.

    If some of that #00 gets away from you when shooting a badguy and you inadvertently kill your kid on the other side of the wall, you really havent accomplished much.

    Using #6 shot will do the same thing to the perp, without the danger of going though a standard stud wall, and those that do wont have the energy to do much.

    A standard load of 6 wont "open" up for at least several feet, and if the BG is in range it will be basically like hitting him with a slug. Even if it didnt put him down right there, he couldnt stand getting hit with a few more shots.

    Seriously, would anyone here want to take a load of even #shot at less than 15 or 20 feet ?

    If you are worried about penetration, the lighter loads would be better.
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    This has been debated over and over again. To each his own on what one chooses to use. The box-o-truth pretty much tells the whole story anyway, if I had the link to it I'd post it.

    I use OO buck and I am very aware of rule #4! I have a house on 5 acres though.


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    As HG says - heavy BB's and slugs in particular could well be ambarrassing re penetration regarding walls.

    I keep #4 loads in my 870 and reckon that these at close quarters will very easily ''deter'' any aggressor!

    BTW Bob - scroll up to my post #4 - you'll see my ''Special Purpose'' and it's 20" which I am sure was as supplied to the guy I bought it from. Lovely shottie BTW it takes screw in chokes and the guy I bought from had the rifles choke to use for his Turkey shooting. I keep the full choke installed (wonder why!! !)
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    When you say #4 loads are you talking about #4 Buck or #4 shot (rabbit load)?
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    #4 shot Doc - what I always called that back in old UK. I used it for rabbit work yes - most effective.

    Here is a reminder chart - my # 4 is of course top row.


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    You were allowed to own a shotgun in the UK? Would you elaborate a little about firearm ownership or lack there of in the UK, please?
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    Doc - yes in UK I always had shotguns and still could now if still there.

    I lost my 24 handgun collection in 1997 but kept my longarms and shotties. I only actually imported four guns when I came over in 2000 - two shotties, a .577 ML Musketoon and, my venerable Mauser Oberndorfe .22 rifle. Sold others.

    As of now as I understand it - shotties and hunting rifles are OK (no semi's) - that presumes you can provide ''good reason''

    All my old club buddies who also lost their handguns continued fun shooting using levers like Win 94 carbines - and so still could use handgun ammo.

    That is about how I remember it being right now. Great huh!
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    I paid $249 for mine and it's parkerized with an extension so it takes 6 in the mag and 1 in the pipe, but I got it from Dick's Sporting goods back in February
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    $299 out the door for mine...came with extension and black synthetic stocks. Rem 870 HD express all black...all business..stoked with OO buck..and 1oz. slugs if needed.
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    Ok as this is on the list for my next gun purchase i looked around. Indeed there has been 2 price increases from the manufacture and is now $399 for the express. the 2 dealers i checked didn't have any in stock and could only order for $399. Went across the road to dicks sporting goods ad low and behold they have 4 on clearance for $279. Mine is now on layaway :P. Also anyone have an opinion for the Tamer Pistol Grip from hogue?
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    I already had an 870 Express and found a good deal on an 18" barrel on Ebay and gun parts corp had the two round remington extensions on sale for 414.95. I have seen those extensions go for over $100.

    I bought an extended Wilson spring and follower and now I have a really nice defensive shotgun for just a little extra money. I have always wanted an 18" extended mag shotgun.

    I went to the range with some 00 buck and some slugs and did a bunch of shooting. It shot really well and I was amazed at how accurate the slug was at 40 yards with just a bead sight.

    Here is the link to the remington Extension if youare interested.

    http://www.e-gunparts.com/DisplayAd....rSuperSKU=&MC=

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    I added a 4 round sidesaddle, so I don't interfere with the pump, Feels much nicer now with extra ammo on hand. Oh yeah, brass down for reloads.
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    Since im in a house i use 00 backed with slug then 00 again

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