Newest weapon...an AK SBR!

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    Newest weapon...an AK SBR!

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    I wanted to clear the air with everybody here because I think I have been misunderstood slightly. I know I have been on other forums.

    I posted a review of an SBR I finally got on this forum. I also posted my review on many other gun forums. My main reason for doing this was to show off my new toy, but one of the products my SBR came equipped with was a replacement for the Larue AK IronDot mount that I know everybody has been looking for since Larue discontinued them. I figured just about anybody with an AK would want to see it. Unfortunately, I got mislabeled as a 'guerilla marketer' which I had never heard of before, but on this forum and a few others I was accused of having an affiliation with the company that made my SBR.

    I want to clear the air with that. I have no connection to them, I was just sharing my new gun.


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    Hey guys!

    I'm new here, so here goes.

    I originally posted this on a different forum, but I thought you all might enjoy it or be interested as well, so here you go!

    Apologies in advance for what turned out to be a really long post. Hopefully you guys will find it interesting and relevant.

    It’s been a long time since I’ve posted anything – been really busy. But I wanted to show you my newest, baddest toy! I finally got an NFA item…Introducing my SBR AK! I thought about building mine, and actually almost started it, until I ran into a company that did it almost exactly how I wanted it (in fact some things they included made it a little better) for barely more than it would cost me myself. Plus I had the luxury of not spending time on ordering parts, waiting to assemble, etc. All I had to do was order it and put my paperwork in! ATF took about 3 months but the process was actually fairly smooth and once I got my tax stamp, I got my SBR.

    Here it is: my Attero Arms AK SBR review.

    I know you’re all itching to see it (if you didn’t skip the above paragraph for the pictures anyway). I will just throw the pictures into the post so that as you read through you can also see pictures.



    This isn’t an ordinary SBR from what I can see – I’ve handled some Draco SBRs and some Krinks. The Krinks are sweet, but they are really expensive and I prefer the normal AK platform personally. This SBR takes normal AK parts like Handguards and pistol grip (minus shorter gas piston). It is made by a company called Attero Arms and Accessories. According to their website, Attero is run by two current service members, which I thought was cool.




    Anyway, Attero included some things on their AK that I wouldn’t have thought of. On their website they probably list it in more detail, but here is what I noticed:

    A bolt hold open notch in the safety lever. I know lots of people have done this but I do think it is a great feature to have on any AK. They also did something to the feed ramp to make sure hollow points feed reliably since I guess some hollow points are shorter and don’t feed well. Never encountered that problem on my full-size AK but I have heard of it happening so I am glad they took care of it.



    Ok, now for possibly the sweetest part about this rifle, which I couldn’t have done myself (besides the looks, which I find fairly simple but very clean…the color scheme just works really well). Attero includes their original product with every SBR they make – it’s this optics mount called the “Attero Arms AK Micro Optics Mount” and it replaces the rear sight. Mine came to me installed so I am not sure how tough installation is. I put a a Burris FastFire on mine. Since the original iron sights were removed, there are built in iron sights with white dots. I think the iron sights are actually better than the stock ones because the rear sight channel is wider and you can pick it up much quicker with the white-dots they have on the front and rear sights. I think if you order the mount separately they also give you a replacement front sight but I am not positive as mine came on the SBR.





    Anyway, this mount is sweet. I am sort of surprised I hadn’t heard about it before. I plan on getting one soon for my full-sized AK. If people are interested I could do a review on that too perhaps. From my range time, I can say that the mount has not moved or wiggled at all. It makes quick shots and follow up shots both really really easy. I had to adjust the irons a little bit but once I got them dialed, they were easy to use as well. The white dots are nice. Even with the mount really close to my receiver cover, I can easily remove and reattach the cover for cleaning. You can see below how close the mount is to the reciever.





    Ok, that’s the mount. If you have an AK, this is the only way to have optics on it. I already trashed my old ‘side clamp’ mount…I never realized how poor of a cheek weld I was getting until I went out and shot my SBR. Since the optics are so close to the receiver, I can get an AR style cheek weld while co-witnessing my optics. Love it.





    Alright on to the rifle itself. It is truly awesome to shoot. Being an AK SBR there is definitely a huge muzzle blast. This thing is nothing short of a cannon! Definitely was attracting attention at the range. The folding stock was a little stiff when I first got it, but its broken in now and works great. I really like that it locks in the closed position as well as the extended one because the ACE mechanisms don’t do that and I find it annoying. All you have to do to open the stock is pull on it though. Once you give a little pressure it releases and folds into the open position where it locks firmly. No wiggle whatsoever which I was actually sort of surprised about. Everything on this rifle is sturdy. The trigger is not match grade but it isn’t sloppy either. No trigger slap and the reset was actually pretty nice. I don’t see myself changing the trigger. I think it’s a Tapco, if that makes a difference. The hand guards are just sweet. The rail covers they included really break up the coyote and I just love how it looks to be honest. I am not sure about if I will mount anything yet. The pistol grip is a Hogue and is extremely comfortable – feels maybe a touch wider than the Hogue that came from the factory on my Rock River AR. It matches the hand guards and I can’t say enough about how much I love what they did with the color scheme.



    Can anybody tell I love this rifle?

    Accuracy was better than I expected. No, you won’t shoot Minute of Angle with a 11.5” AK. But you will shoot nice groups at 50 or 100yds. I handed my rifle off to a retired Marine at my range who managed to shoot a 20rd group about the size of my fist. He cared less about his group and more about my SBR though.

    I had no failures of any sort which is to be expected from an AK, but I was using Wolf JHP’s so I guess their feed-ramp fix works. I have put 1100 rounds through it so far.

    Other than what I’ve covered I am not sure what else somebody would want to know. I called Attero to ask if they have any sort of 16” model with the same features so that people could get them without the ATF paperwork and 4 month wait. The gentleman I spoke with says they are working on it now because they’ve been receiving a lot of those requests. Personally I like the SBR – with the stock folded I can fit it in my backpacking pack when I go hiking. It also fits in a tennis racket case! Not sure if that’s cool or scary. Both maybe.

    Here are some comparison pics with my standard bone-stock AK. I did one side by side, one with the muzzle brake on the SBR removed, and one with the muzzle brake removed AND stock folded.









    Well what do you guys think of my new toy? Like it? I think my favorite part about this thing, besides how it looks, is that optics mount. It really makes it so there is nothing better about my AR anymore. I find myself taking this SBR to the range a lot more.

    -Twister


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    Optics on an AK?!?! That's sacrilege!

    All kidding aside, looks like a really nice rifle. I wish I had the cash to drop on an SBR.

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    Welcome to being new here. I feel your excitement.
    Not sure if that’s cool or scary. Both maybe.
    That depends I reckon.

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    Thanks guys!

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    Nice! If you don't mind my asking, how much does something like your AK cost?

    FYI, I'm waiting on the stamp for a SBR project I'm building myself. I'll be adding a folding stock to a Kel-Tec PLR-16. Since it has a 9" barrel, I need to get the stamp from the BATF before I finish my project. The truth is, except for adding the rear stock, it's finished already since I did everything else to it a while back. The rear stock is the only thing I need to get approval on from the fed's and hopefully the stamp will be here before autumn arrives. I had thought about a SBR project using my PLR several years ago but it wasn't practical due to all the mods (and added expense) required. However, K-T began to build the exact same gun I had in mind recently so I now simply need to replace the current pistol grip/trigger assembly with a new one that has the folding stock already attached. About 5 minutes, swap a screw and a pin and the job will be complete. BTW, I get quite a light show shooting 5.56/223 ammo through that short barrel. How do you deal with the flash and noise from the larger 7.62 out of your short barrel? Do you have much trouble with muzzle rise?

    Below is a photo of how my PLR looks now and the other two are how it will look with the stock.
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    I got my AK SBR off the Attero website for what they have it currently listed at - 1239.99 plus shipping. A good deal for an SBR plus the mount, if you ask me.

    I don't find the muzzle blast too distracting during the day. The 7.62 X 39 makes a great SBR round because it loses less energy in shorter barrels than a 5.45 or 5.56 round does. It is quite loud, but not unmanageable. As for muzzle rise, it is not a problem due to the compensator/muzzle brake they included. Haven't tested other ones.

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    Very slick rig! Get yourself .30 cal supressor and she'll have every evil feature.
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    Nice! Thanks for posting with pics.
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    Can't wait for the range report!!

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    Very sweet rifle . Congrats and enjoy!
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    Thats bad as hell! For 100 yards and less that may be the best fighting rifle one could ask for. Do they sell the rear sight mount and rear sights seperate?

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    Very nice man! I love AK's! I also just put that midwest industries rail on my current build too. They are pretty sweet.
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    Man that is a beautiful gun! Got me drooling now!


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    My optics mount came attached to my SBR, but it looks like on their website they sell the optics mount seperately. My SBR also has a white-dot front sight, not sure if theirs comes with that or what the deal is there.


    Thanks guys!

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