HD/Hunting shotgun

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    I've heard a gazillion times that the 20 gauge is the best HD shotgun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CanuckQue View Post
    I've heard a gazillion times that the 20 gauge is the best HD shotgun.
    I've heard a lot of things too.

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    Federal makes a number of loads with their "Flite Control" wad. This technology keeps tight patterns in birdshot and buckshot without the need for any kind of choke. You get the same pattern from an 18" SD gun as you would with a conventional hunting gun with a full choke. For slugs, Federal again saves the day with the "Tru Ball" slug that shoots well from SD guns. Usually the limitation is the bead sights typically found on defense guns.

    Solve your problem with good ammo, and you'll still save some money over buying a new barrel. You also get the benefit of using your SD or HD shotgun more and getting better with it.

    And no matter how much you like booms and blasts, the 3 1/2 inch loads are painful. Avoid when possible.
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    Thanks. With that Federal ammo, I could have one dual purpose SG. Heck, I don't know if I'll ever go hunting with it. I've always wanted to hunt pheasant, turkey and deer but can't find anyone to take me. So the hunting abilities of the gun are not that important as the HD part.

    If I ever do find someone to go hunting with, I'll load it up with the Federal ammo. Then later down the road, if I am able to get more into hunting, then I can get a dedicated hunting shotgun.

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    If I wanted a HD/hunting shotty and I liked Benelli why not look at the standard Nova with a 24" barrel. You really dont want a pistol grip for a pheasant gun and the longer barrel is better for hunting- sight radius and swinging on flying birds. I guarantee ya it would kill a home invader just as good as the tactical model.

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    I know this wouldn't be a good hunting shotgun but this would be pretty cool for HD. A little more than what I was thinking about spending. The Kel Tec KSG. Looks like no other shotgun. 14+1 in the chamber. Around $700.

    Then maybe down the road getting a dedicated hunting shotgun?

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    Just watched the nutnfancy youtube video on the KSG. Yup, I think I need one.

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    Aaron I love Benelli. If you have cash to burn for fun or going to shoot in olympics, It is must have.

    My suggestions: home defense is not skeet or hunting dont mix with HD. 18 inch barrel maybe 19 if will let you load 1 more 2 3/4 shell.
    tell gun dealer you will buy after testing a few tactical shotguns, give free gun use for 20 shell test on each gun or pay small rental. test a pistol grip because you will decide NO WAY to pistal grip. At range set paper targets at 10' 20' 30' for in door patterns then 50' and 100' for someone in your yard patterns When over 100' go back inside, cause thats rifle time.

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    A pistol grip on a shotgun makes about as much sense as having a coffee cup holder on a chainsaw and doubly so if your intention is to also use it as a bird gun.
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    My home defense is tactical shotgun with #1 buck shot, my preference. Intruder is hit with 16 bullets all at once.
    My memory of my testing is awhile back: at 10' 3 inch pattern(was that radius or diameter?), 20' 6 inch pattern. Oh well dam memory.
    I not worried though shoot straight then I have no concerns.


    Every one has their own shells they like for HD shotguns. Add for Aaron what shot you use and why.

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    QKShooter Great post. You said it better than I did. Also liked made me laugh.

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    Any thoughts on the KSG? Heard one of the pilots here at work just got one.

    I think I'll eventually end up with two shotguns instead of one dual purpose one.

    Maybe the KSG for HD and a Benelli or Remington 870 for hunting? Just so many choices out there.

    Just wondering why people don't like pistol grips on shot guns? Is it they way they look or the way they feel? I'm used to normal shotguns. The other day, I held a SuperNova Tactical with the pistol grip and it felt much more natural than a standard shotgun. I shoot pistols mostly so maybe I'm just used to pistol grips?

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    Explaination. A pistol grip without a stock is what makes very poor shot gun. Sorry thats a fact. Try test shooting shot gun that has both stock for shoulder and pistol grip. If you wish the grip buy it as long as comes with stock that fits you and is comfortable. Have fun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granddad View Post
    Explaination. A pistol grip without a stock is what makes very poor shot gun. Sorry thats a fact. Try test shooting shot gun that has both stock for shoulder and pistol grip. If you wish the grip buy it as long as comes with stock that fits you and is comfortable. Have fun
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    My impression of the KSG is that it is sexy, sexy, sexy. I think it's a great idea as a tactical weapon, especially due to the fact that you can specialise your loadout and afford to shoot suppressively. I don't think it's a HD weapon, though. A HD scenario shouldn't require 14 shots, and it shouldn't require a variable loadout.

    The semi-auto 20 gauge can deliver a lethal load (in a HD setting) in one shot. It's light enough that a missus or kids can be trained on it, for desperate situations. The recoil is low enough such that you can retarget a missed shot rapidly.
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