Well , picked up a Kel Tec SUB2000 and finally got to get down to the range with it . 50 yds I was getting 4" groups with the stock sights straight out of the box. I am pleasently surprised at how well it shoots and functions . I especially like that it folds down to 16" and can be locked in that position . It seems to be a great little gun and adequate as a home/personal defense weapon . I really like the fact that it takes glock 22 mags , so easy to have a few loaded and ready . This one I ordered is in .40 s&w and it seems to like decent JHPs . Any one else have or come across one of these ? Just would like to get an idea what others thought of it .