S.H.T.F. Rifle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justified View Post
    Haven't bought anything in a while. I have a mini 14 but am designing a B.O.B. and what-not and find the mini 14 to be heavy when thinking of hiking 10 hours or so a day (in a SHTF). So I am thinking of a new rifle. What do you think would be best for travel on foot in the elements. Considering function, accuracy, maintenance, weight, etc.
    Consider upgrading your Mini-14 to something like an ATI Folding/Collapsible Stock with rails. It takes quite a bit of weight off of it and is much more useful in MOUNT or open terrain (with bipod).

    Also, there are several Bull Pup conversion stocks made for the Mini-14 that really reduce weight and length (for MOUNT). Some are good, others are not (check the reviews). Note: Bull Pup may make the Mini-14 illegal in states such as CA where an overall minimum length of 26 inches (butt to tip) are required for semi-auto rifles to be legal. Check your state laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glockman10mm View Post
    I have really been rethinking some things lately on this very subject. It's not on my list of immediate concerns, but is something I think is a valid consideration in the grand scheme of things.

    Having said that, a recent back yard impromptu plinking session with my 22 rifle really got me to thinking. I was re- amazed at how quickly and accurately I could empty an entire mag load of mini mags onto a paper plate at 50 and 100 yards. I have really not fired a rimfire rifle very much in years, neglecting it and relegating it to only small game hunting or plinking sessions. But with the ease of shooting and inherent accuracy of the little buggers, they have alot going for them.
    Now, Immanuel AR man myself. But after putting some time and thought into it, I'm not so sure anymore if I would choose my AR for a long term strategy. There is so much the rimfire does so much better, such as low noise, small game, and economical and ease of carry of as many as 500 rounds on ones person, it's defenitly worthy of consideration. Combined with a decent sidearm of 9mm on ones person, there is really nothing it won't do.

    Range was mentioned as a down side to the rimfire. Now, while it's true that at any range the 223 has substancially more punch than the rimfire, I cannot imagine any person that would take a blitz or swarm of the rimfire to the head, neck, chest, or practically anywhere on the body, that would remain optimistic in their desire to either continue a pursuit of me or desire to harm me.

    For $100, one could stockpile literally 5000 rounds. If you and another family member both carried one, the firepower against a small band of marauders would be overwhelming, especially if you had a suprise advantage.

    As far as ability to inflict damage, I have shot and killed turkeys, and foxes at 100 yards with complete penetration on the body, more than adequate penetration for chest shots on bipeds.

    Zombie apocalypse? Head shots are all that count, and the 22 is all that's really needed.
    I have thought about this for a couple of weeks now, and have decided to include a 22 rifle in each of my vehicles, with a brick of ammo, to compliment my " on the road" vehicle emergency kit, with water, blankets, food ect..

    I'm sure if I had the ability to carry everything I wanted, I would also like to have an AR, M14, and an MK 19 grenade launcher. But to be truly mobile, you gotta make some compromises. And the ability to shoot small edible game, carry ammo in quanity and have a measure of SD, are very important. Heck, even large game can be taken with the 22.It's really hard to over look in the bigger picture.
    I have been of this mindset for a very long time. Long before the Zombie End Of The World thing, but rather thinking about what IF I had to boil it down to only one weapon and had to survive in the woods after being stranded by some unforseen event. What would it be? In bold were some of the things that I'll have to agree with glockman on.

    Of course I could figure on having an AH-64 Apache for surviving and even have some of the meat cooked for me before I land. But I believe the ability to adapt and conserve is the best way to go for me and the good ol' .22 is what I've narrowed it down to for what I believe to be the best tool for the long term job.

    I figured I'd want to and be able to harvest anything from frogs, rabbits, birds, squirrels and all the way up to deer and even a wild hog if placed right behind the ear. All resulting in minimal damage and waste.

    There isn't going to be a "Red Dawn" thing going on, with me being a member of the "Wolverines" and everyone is out to hunt me down. I would like to think that I could put myself in a position of laying low, being quiet and being able to hunt and defend from close range if I had to bug out.

    Now that's if, for some reason, I could only have one firearm. It would be my semi-auto. However, more realistically I would be able to grab a sidearm as well so I wouldn't need a semi-auto .22. Believe it or not my choice for .22 along with the ability to pack a sidearm of whatever you chose to throw in there, would be my daughter's .22 Chipmunk single shot rifle. Crickett Firearms - My First Rifle - Youth Model 22 Rifles - Proudly Made In The USA I know, go ahead and laugh. Why? Bolt action, doesn't have a whole lot of moving parts. Won't need a whole lot of resources to keep clean. Length? 30" overall. Super light and a CCI Stinger will fly out of it just as well as of it's bigger brothers. Not to mention that it's a little tack driver!

    I just feel that I'd be better served having something that is super reliable, lightweight, very easy to maintain and accurate. Probably not going to need to spray down a town like Rambo did. I'm sure I'll have to eat a few times before something like that comes up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ANGLICO View Post
    Consider upgrading your Mini-14 to something like an ATI Folding/Collapsible Stock with rails. It takes quite a bit of weight off of it and is much more useful in MOUNT or open terrain (with bipod).

    Also, there are several Bull Pup conversion stocks made for the Mini-14 that really reduce weight and length (for MOUNT). Some are good, others are not (check the reviews). Note: Bull Pup may make the Mini-14 illegal in states such as CA where an overall minimum length of 26 inches (butt to tip) are required for semi-auto rifles to be legal. Check your state laws.
    I assume you are talking about MOUT? Military Operations in Urban Terrain? :)

    Additionally, it is a FEDERAL law that all rifles (without the NFA tax stamp, of course) be a minimum of 26" in overall length. This is not specific or unique to any states.

    From 18 USC Section 921: (8) The term “short-barreled rifle” means a rifle having one or more barrels less than sixteen inches in length and any weapon made from a rifle (whether by alteration, modification, or otherwise) if such weapon, as modified, has an overall length of less than twenty-six inches.
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    Looks like we might have a tropical storm or hurricane moving directly into Corpus Christi, at least according to current models. That's my personal type of SHTF. I always debate staying or leaving.

    My SHTF rifles, though it'll mostly be the 10.5".

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    What Jon? No night vision?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns View Post
    What Jon? No night vision?

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    One of those should do it. I built the Scar 17 to be the "be all end all" rifle so thats my first choice.
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    GotSig, how are you liking that larger Elcan?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonconsiglio View Post
    GotSig, how are you liking that larger Elcan?
    I like it, I think its the perfect optic for the 17, BDC for 308, red dot, etc.
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    You sure that slingshot is legal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GotSig? View Post
    You sure that slingshot is legal?
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