S.H.T.F. Rifle
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February 19th, 2012 10:33 PM
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S.H.T.F. Rifle
Haven't bought anything in a while. I have a mini 14 but am designing a B.O.B. and what-not and find the mini 14 to be heavy when thinking of hiking 10 hours or so a day (in a SHTF). So I am thinking of a new rifle. What do you think would be best for travel on foot in the elements. Considering function, accuracy, maintenance, weight, etc.
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February 19th, 2012 10:33 PM
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February 19th, 2012 10:40 PM
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I have always wanted a mini 14.
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February 19th, 2012 10:43 PM
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Being as i've had the preban mini14 with a butler creek folding stock, and a fairly tricked out norinco AK...and now I have the M4.
I would vote for the AR, much lighter...plus you already have 223 ammo.
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February 20th, 2012 08:52 AM
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I would go with the AR as well. More versatile in set up and much more conducive to hiking.
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February 20th, 2012 08:59 AM
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I have an AR and an AK, I want to say AR in most cases because it's easier to carry more ammo and ammo availability is better. Although, if poo-poo really, and I mean really, hits the fan I'd want an AK just for outright reliability. Accounting for worst case scenario, I voted AK.
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February 20th, 2012 09:07 AM
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I guess I'm the odd duck here, my vote goes to SKS. No magazines to mess with, just grab rifle and ammo. Magazines make for a little quicker reloading as long as you have plenty of mag's, but at some point you'll run out of pre-loaded mags. At that point the SKS being fed by stripper clips becomes superior.
Also tactical reloads can be preformed with zero loss of live ammo.
Just my $.02
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February 20th, 2012 09:09 AM
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I was stuck between the AK and the AR. I have an AK and my dad owns and AR. I voted AR simply due to accuracy. Havent had any problems with either guns at the range, both are simple to maintain, both are good choices. These two guns have been debated many times before, and probly always will be, can't go wrong with either.
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February 20th, 2012 09:17 AM
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I really have to agree with JaySki- the AR is great because of the lighter/smaller ammo. But, when it all comes down to it, and it ABSOLUTELY HAS TO WORK; I pick AK. I'm familiar with it, the 7.62X39 is a great round, and, well, I just like it.
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February 20th, 2012 09:17 AM
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I voted for the AR platform. Reliability is just fine (assuming you take care of your weapon - which is true for any platform), its accurate, powerful, capacity is good, and light enough to be carried long distances. Plus, its a common system, so magazines, ammo, misc supplies, repair tools/parts, etc, etc, etc can all readily be found, even in a SHTF scenario. I have a pretty simplistic AR15 for my BO rifle... it may not be "tacticool", but it'll certainly get the job done of protecting my family and myself, which is priority #1 in a bad scenario. Also, the .223 is not a great hunting round, but its more than enough to take down Texas deer and hog. So protection and hunting system all in one.
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February 20th, 2012 09:19 AM
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How about a kriss super v Handgun ammo .45acp but if it matches your handgun why not 5.5 inch barrel with a tax stamp folding stock and 5 1/2lbs. Takes a glock mag. I'm having a hard time besides the price fing a better combo.
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February 20th, 2012 09:21 AM
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AR....Everyone and there brother has one, has mags for one and you can find parts, ammo and mags litterally anywhere including our military.
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February 20th, 2012 09:38 AM
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The more I think about the realities of what is really going to be important in any type of civil emergency, the more I believe a good semi auto 22 rimfire with a cargo pocket full of extra magazines would be the most useful rifle to have.
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February 20th, 2012 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by
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The more I think about the realities of what is really going to be important in any type of civil emergency, the more I believe a good semi auto 22 rimfire with a cargo pocket full of extra magazines would be the most useful rifle to have.
You beat me to it. +1
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February 20th, 2012 09:43 AM
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Yep, I was thinking AR for just the same reasons in Doodle's post above. If you need something for it, you're gonna have a hell of a lot easier time finding AR parts, ammo and mags in the US.
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February 20th, 2012 09:46 AM
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Of the ones you listed, a good AR with iron sights would be a very light option. I have a Colt 6720 lightweight and I can't believe how light it is. Right now it's still in its factory configuration. The others (not sure about the Mini-14) will not be as light.
Not on your list, I agree with Glockman that a good 22 may be the way to go. Super light and easy to carry. 1,000 rounds is nothing to carry. I have a great lever action from the 50's that is uber reliable. That would probably work for most people.
But, I need my AR...
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