223 and 30 Carbine Against Water Jugs

223 and 30 Carbine Against Water Jugs

This is a discussion on 223 and 30 Carbine Against Water Jugs within the Defensive Rifles & Shotgun Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Had some time this weekend to create a new video. I pulled out my SU16C and M1 Carbine to shoot some water jugs to see ...

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    223 and 30 Carbine Against Water Jugs

    Had some time this weekend to create a new video. I pulled out my SU16C and M1 Carbine to shoot some water jugs to see the power of each. The 223 was standard federal black box 55grain FMJ and the 30 Carbine was Remington SP.

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    I sure wouldn't want to stand in front of either bullet!

    The .30 Carbine round in its FMJ loading certainly left a lot to be desired when compared to the .30-06 round in the contemporary M1 Garand. Reference was made to how much more effective the .30-06 round was in "Breakout," a great book about the Chosin Reservoir campaign in the Korean War.

    The soft-point carbine ammo was pretty impressive on the water jugs, though. How about repeating the experiment with expanding 5.56 ammo to level the playing field?
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    MNBurl's tough! Holding ballistic testing with all that white stuff around. I've never seen that much snow here in Texas (well maybe the '64 snow) but I'd not likely be out fooling around with water jugs under those conditions. Great job putting this clip together and the snow looks nice. The .30 Carbine's pretty wicked with soft point ammunition.

    Shot a large 'coon a couple of years back from about 50 yards while deer hunting on our place with my M1 Carbine. He sorta behaved like that water jug hit with the .30 Carbine soft point. He appeared to have grenaded.

    Have posted this photo before but here's a similar gallon milk jug full of water at instant of impact from a .223 50 grain Remington Core-Lokt spitzer soft point handload stepping out at a goodly velocity, fired by my wife.


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    Done killed those jugs graveyard dead. It did appear the M1 carbine was more devastating than the 223.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmcgilvray View Post
    MNBurl's tough! Holding ballistic testing with all that white stuff around. I've never seen that much snow here in Texas (well maybe the '64 snow) but I'd not likely be out fooling around with water jugs under those conditions. Great job putting this clip together and the snow looks nice. The .30 Carbine's pretty wicked with soft point ammunition.

    Shot a large 'coon a couple of years back from about 50 yards while deer hunting on our place with my M1 Carbine. He sorta behaved like that water jug hit with the .30 Carbine soft point. He appeared to have grenaded.

    Have posted this photo before but here's a similar gallon milk jug full of water at instant of impact from a .223 50 grain Remington Core-Lokt spitzer soft point handload stepping out at a goodly velocity, fired by my wife.


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    My M1 Carbine with SPs is my backup deer rifle. It would do a fine job with a deer very similar to my 1894 Marlin 357 with SPs that is used as primary.
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    I have to find somewhere to try that with 170 gr JSPs out of my .30-30 Marlin 336.
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    10thmtn I would love to see that. I will do the same thing with my Marlin 1894 357 with soft points and JHPs.
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