Best Home defense Gun (opinions)

This is a discussion on Best Home defense Gun (opinions) within the Defensive Rifles & Shotgun Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; What does everyone think about the Walther P22 for plinking around? any good or garbage? Also is the mossberg 590a1 any better than the other ...

Page 4 of 7 FirstFirst 1234567 LastLast
Results 46 to 60 of 95
Like Tree44Likes

Thread: Best Home defense Gun (opinions)

  1. #46
    Member Array Bear.357's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    CT
    Posts
    33
    What does everyone think about the Walther P22 for plinking around? any good or garbage? Also is the mossberg 590a1 any better than the other home defense mossbergs?
    PFC (Prepared For Chaos) Live by it, or die when it happens. I'm ready, are you?
    "I have not yet begun to fight" - John Paul Jones 1747*1792- United States Naval Academy 1845-1995

  2. Remove Ads

  3. #47
    VIP Member Array Smitty901's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Wisconsin
    Posts
    3,097
    Beat this to death but some subjects are like that.
    There is no one right weapon for any job.
    If you can't hit the door with a hand gun then it should not be your first option
    If your not going to shoot it enough to stay in practice then a hand gun is not for you.
    Same problem with a rifle most are to big except some of your shorter ones AR, M4,AK ect .
    To hit your mark quick in a house with a rifle takes some training, and i don't mean a couple hours at friends house on Saturday, you really need to put some time in.
    Another problem is the rounds will go trough more than one sheet of dry and keep going and going.
    Shot Gun, a good one is 100% always ready, they just do not fail even if they been in the closet for a long time.
    Does not take long to get a good point and shoot system down with one.
    Bit easier to hit the target in a hurry with one
    Flexible rounds depending on your house lay out.
    A great HD shot gun can be had for low cost. Example is Mossberg Maverick Model 88 the short one 159-189 dollars ready to go to work will last a life time and never let you down.
    Down side storing it where it is safe out of the way but ready when you need it.
    I am not sold on the sound closing the slide scaring the BG away maybe But I not betting my life on that one.

    A GOOD DOG can buy you time, maybe even stop it before you get there and keep your feet warm at night. And lets face it the chance your house will be invaded are slim depending on where you are so your not going to be on you best guard at all times the Dog will know somethings wrong long before you do.
    Your house is more likely to get broken into when your not home, again The Dog may take care of that.

  4. #48
    Member Array lazytl's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Montana
    Posts
    78
    There's no end to the possibilities, but so much is dependent on where you live, your budget, etc... As stated, for backyard plinking and versatility the Ruger 10-22 is a hard rifle to beat, but as you have asked what some of us are using for home defense. Here is what I use:
    Shotgun: an H&R Partner Pump in 20 gauge that I bought new for $179. It is sold and dependable and has an attached flashlight. It is 20 gauge because I've had a recent neck injury and can't take the recoil of a 12-gauge.
    In a different safe I have a Mini-14 with two loaded 30-round magazines. This is my main go-to HD firearm. It is my fourth Mini-14. I used to have a scope on it for calling and shooting coyotes but I've removed the scope for home defense.
    In my handgun safe is a Ruger SP101 .357 Mag, 3" barrel and a Ruger Mark II .22.
    My concealed carry gun is a Smith and Wesson Model 317 AirLite .22. Holds eight rounds of CCI Velocitors.
    In my area concealed carry firepower is not the main consideration. It is more likely someone would break into the house not knowing I am working in the basement.

  5. #49
    Moderator
    Array RETSUPT99's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Central Florida
    Posts
    43,825
    A coach gun w/00 buck and a Glock-21...pretty much the 'welcoming committee' at our house.
    The last Blood Moon Tetrad for this millennium starts in April 2014 and ends in September 2015...according to NASA.

    ***********************************
    Certified Glock Armorer
    NRA Life Member[/B]

  6. #50
    Member Array Bear.357's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    CT
    Posts
    33
    I've got the dog. Problem there is the dog is like my kid if an intruder did something to her I'd have to kill 'em or at least would wish I could. Mossberg it is. Most preferred brand of 00 buck?
    PFC (Prepared For Chaos) Live by it, or die when it happens. I'm ready, are you?
    "I have not yet begun to fight" - John Paul Jones 1747*1792- United States Naval Academy 1845-1995

  7. #51
    VIP Member Array Cuda66's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    minnesota
    Posts
    2,201
    Yes, absolutely, a shotgun must be aimed.



    The top pattern is Winchester 9-pellet 00 buck, fired at 15 feet--a typical in the home shot.

    The bottom is fired at 50 feet. Same load, same shotgun (Benelli M1S90 tactical, IC choke). 50 feet is a pretty long shot in a home...not impossible, but unlikely.

    Either pattern could miss quite easily.

    (My choice--a 16" AR-15 (6920) loaded with Barnes 55gr TSX)
    Last edited by Cuda66; March 3rd, 2012 at 09:56 PM. Reason: corrected distance...
    There are no dangerous weapons; there are only dangerous men.--RAH

    ...man fights with his mind; the weapons are incidental.--Jeff Cooper


    There is a reason they try and make small bullets act like big bullets--Glockmann10mm

  8. #52
    Member Array Moops's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    United States
    Posts
    200
    Quote Originally Posted by Bear.357 View Post
    What does everyone think about the Walther P22 for plinking around? any good or garbage? Also is the mossberg 590a1 any better than the other home defense mossbergs?
    The first gun I ever purchased was a P22. It is great until you have to get it home and strip it. Actually, the stripping is fine. The putting back together...not fine. It is definitely a fun gun however. My 12 year old loves shooting it. I just don't clean it as often as I should.

    Oh, and you need a high velocity round. CCI's work well, as do the Winchester 550s that you can get for around $20 at Wal-Mart.
    "Your mind is the weapon, all the rest are just tools." --gasmitty

  9. #53
    Ex Member Array Rotorhead84's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Nebraska
    Posts
    51
    Quote Originally Posted by Bear.357 View Post
    I've got the dog. Problem there is the dog is like my kid if an intruder did something to her I'd have to kill 'em or at least would wish I could. Mossberg it is. Most preferred brand of 00 buck?
    Any well known manufactuer will do. I prefer Hornady Superformance myself. I really like the pattern from the "versatite" wad they use. Not to mention its 1600FPS

  10. #54
    Ex Member Array Rotorhead84's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Nebraska
    Posts
    51
    Quote Originally Posted by jonconsiglio View Post
    Rotorhead84, This isn't directed at you, just generally toward those that say the same thing you insinuated about the AR not being a good choice indoors, whether in the suburbs or apartments, etc. It makes a great choice. Now, just like you pointed out hammer2213 is spreading misinformation, essentially you are doing the same thing. I don't fault you for this as it's as common a misconception as is the shotgun's 2 foot patter at 10 feet, but when it comes up, we need to do our best to get the facts out there so others don't fall victim to bad information.

    An AR is an excellent choice and using OTM loads like 75gr TAP or Mk263 you will have slightly LESS chance of overpenetration than you will hollow point 9mm, 45 or buckshot for example, I'm not saying it won't happen, it's just not like many assume. We all need to research these types of things when deciding. Of course bonded and FMJ loads are not the best for indoor use, but OTM loads are slightly better than any duty load for handguns or shotguns when it comes to overpenetration.

    I'm not going to post a link for the multiple studies by the world's formost experts like Dr Gary Roberts (DocGKR on m4carbine.net and ar15.com plus other forums) and Dr Martin Fackler every week when someone that understandably has been fed some bad info on the subject comes and spreads that wrong info, but a very quick Google search will give days worth of reading proving that point. I'm not trying to be a jerk here, but this has been proven wrong time and time again.

    This is one of the reasons most PDs have switched from subguns like MP5's to ARs, more effective on target and LESS chance of overpenetration (I own both and have trained extensively on both, so I'm not just speaking out of the other end here).

    One shot stops are a myth, I personally know a guy that literally blew the heart out of a guy with buckshot and still got shot a couple times. It took little time for him to die, but even with a destroyed heart he had 20 to 30 seconds of fight left.

    Not sure of the gunfights anyone here has been in (I don't mean that in a sarcastic way), but 10 seconds is an eternity and a ton of stuff can go wrong in that few seconds, especially if you are foolish enough to believe ANY WEAPON will consistently drop guys with one shot. Sure, it may if they're standing in line, minding their own business at the convenience store, but it is many, many times harder to put down a determined attacker that is likely on meth or some other hard drug.

    Only in the movies can you count on one shot stops, in real life it will never go as planned and hopefully all of us are training for multiple shots and failure to stop drills.

    This post was not meant to suggest one is a better choice than another, that can ONLY be decided by the one choosing the weapon as their training will be everything here and any weapon in a duty grade caliber is a good choice. It was meant to point out the misinformation between weapons and those truths MUST be understood before ruling something out or choosing it over another.

    Again, I don't mean this to sound like I'm jumping on anyone, I just took a post and am replying to those general thought s held by many about the AR and shotgun alike.

    Hey man, I spent 8 years in the Corps. I have a thick skin, you can direct anything you want my way anytime. I won't get butthurt.


    Anyway, I don't disagree with most of what you said. I was really speaking in generalities, not specifics. We could hash out 25 pages of specifics if you want, but I think the OP wanted a general idea. Generally speaking, a shotgun is a better home defense weapon than an AR, and for damn sure a better all around weapon.

    Sure a badguy cracked out on who knows what has the potential to keep in the fight, again I was speaking in generalites. You can get shot 8 ways to sunday in a gunfight, unless you take out the "t-box" you're running the risk of getting shot even after the guy is full of lead. To argue that a 12 gauge shotgun at 10 feet won't stop a badguy more reliably than an AR is kinda silly though.


    I also really find it hard to believe any projectile traveling 3200 FPS is going to stop in 1 or two layers of sheet rock. I can punch a hole in 2 layers of sheet rocking using a lot less energy and dispersing that lesser energy over a much larger surface area. I'd like to see information that says otherwise. I keep an open mind, maybe I'll change my tune. I'm sure you've heard of the box o' truth, but he has done some work in this regard and his results are contrary to what you are saying.

  11. #55
    Senior Member Array Cold Shot's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Texas
    Posts
    875
    Quote Originally Posted by Rotorhead84 View Post
    Generally speaking, a shotgun is a better home defense weapon than an AR, and for damn sure a better all around weapon.
    This is the second time in the last couple hours I've thought to myself: what the heck is this guy talking about?

  12. #56
    New Member Array takis31gk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Boston
    Posts
    1
    1911 with a 10 round Wilson Combat magazine. 45 ACP is king when it comes to self defense (in my opinion).

  13. #57
    VIP Member
    Array ANGLICO's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    I'm the guy next door that is polite, but does not tell you crap.
    Posts
    3,156
    Claymore (but please don't frag the Neighbors and have fire suppression handy if indoors). Note: Wear hearing protection and shield eyes from flash, then follow up with liberal amounts of fire from anything you know how to shoot.

    Seriously. The origional question is too broad. Use as much firepower as you can manage (shotgun or handgun) without endangering others in the beaten zone.
    Socialism Kills! Time proven, with a very large body count! We are a Constitutional Republic....... not a Democracy, get it correct!

    Don't be mistaken for a Gecko45: http://lonelymachines.org/mall-ninjas/

    Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14qTdp-Dd30

    ANGLICO Images

  14. #58
    Senior Member Array Cokeman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Utah
    Posts
    944
    Quote Originally Posted by Moops View Post
    The first gun I ever purchased was a P22. It is great until you have to get it home and strip it. Actually, the stripping is fine. The putting back together...not fine. It is definitely a fun gun however. My 12 year old loves shooting it. I just don't clean it as often as I should.

    Oh, and you need a high velocity round. CCI's work well, as do the Winchester 550s that you can get for around $20 at Wal-Mart.
    Most peoples' P22s work perfectly with Remington Golden Bullets, also $20. I can put mine back together just like any other gun. At first it was hard to keep the guide rod in the slide while putting the slide back on. Then I figured it out. It takes the right technique. It's a great gun.
    Glock 23 - CZ 452 ZKM Special
    Walther P22 - LMT STD 16
    Mossberg 500A - Kahr P380
    Henry H001Y - Winchester 12
    Smith & Wesson M&P Shield
    Mossberg 500B - Marlin 336Y

  15. #59
    Senior Member Array Cokeman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Utah
    Posts
    944
    Here are my choices for HD. Each one has rounds in it now.





    Glock 23 - CZ 452 ZKM Special
    Walther P22 - LMT STD 16
    Mossberg 500A - Kahr P380
    Henry H001Y - Winchester 12
    Smith & Wesson M&P Shield
    Mossberg 500B - Marlin 336Y

  16. #60
    Distinguished Member Array SubNine's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Anchorage Alaska
    Posts
    1,964
    I personally think the best choice for a home defense gun is the one you're most comfortable shooting and able to get rounds on target even under stress. No gun will do you any good if you can't operate and shoot it accurately with your adrenaline flowing and heart racing.

    Just my .02
    USMC rule # 23 of gunfighting: Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

    I am the God fearing, gun toting, flag waving conservative you were warned about!

Page 4 of 7 FirstFirst 1234567 LastLast

Links

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Search tags for this page

best gun for home defense 2012

,

best handgun for home defense

,

best handgun for home defense 2012

,

best home defense handgun

,
best home defense handgun 2012
,
best home defense pistol
,
best home defense shotgun 2012
,

best pistol for home defense

,
best pistol for home defense 2012
,
best revolver for home defense 2012
,
best shotgun 2012
,

best shotgun for home defense 2012

Click on a term to search for related topics.