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    Any one ever shot one of these???? I cant shoot a rifle of shotgun because I've got a prostitic shoulder but was thinking one of these would be nice to have around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burns View Post
    There are plenty of ARs for under 700. DPMS Oracle is about 630, S&W has a few for about 650, doublestar has some for 670
    True, but add taxes, background check, mags, etc and you are over the OP's stated budget. And a lot of the low end AR's lack features you would want - like iron sights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cltyus1 View Post
    ...with 00 buckshot, there can be over penetration, and when birdshot, there may not be enough penetration...
    Welcome!

    Keep in mind, there's a big gap between 00 Buck and "birdshot". My HD shotgun round of choice is #4 Buck, but NO BG is going to remain standing after taking a load of BB shot, or #4 thru 0 Buck at across-the-room range. Even #6 or bigger birdshot is going to be pretty effective at <20 ft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilowatt3 View Post
    Welcome!

    Keep in mind, there's a big gap between 00 Buck and "birdshot". My HD shotgun round of choice is #4 Buck, but NO BG is going to remain standing after taking a load of BB shot, or #4 thru 0 Buck at across-the-room range. Even #6 or bigger birdshot is going to be pretty effective at <20 ft.

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    Thanks Jim, I also have #4 in mine as well. Just wanted a rifle to add to my beginning stage of my gun collection you know. Something to play with at the range, but can also be used for HD if ever needed thats all.

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    There are lots of AK varients using 5.56 or 5.45 ammo. Look at J&G sales. I'm at work so I can't post a link.

    I like the Polish AKs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rdpG19 View Post
    Any one ever shot one of these???? I cant shoot a rifle of shotgun because I've got a prostitic shoulder but was thinking one of these would be nice to have around.

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    They are harder to hit with than a pistol or rifle, I discourage people from getting pistol grip shotguns for this reason. I have seen people miss gallon milk jugs at 10 feet with birdshot. A low recoiling carbine would be better suited if you cannot handle the recoil of a shotgun or high powered rifle.
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    Have you looked at getting a Kel-Tec Sub2000? It can use the same mags as your Glock 23, this will give a a more accurate platform and ammo and mag capatibility
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    I'd buy an M&P sport. Or do like Johnny Cash, and buy my AR one piece at a time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CLASS3NH View Post
    Beretta CX4 Storm carbine. Short, simple to operate, and everybody in your household can utilize it due to the low recoil. Thay come in 9mm, 40 S&W, and 45 ACP. Combined with the PX4 pistol, you can use the pistol mags in the carbine and vice versa. Just my thoughts here, with you being new to the Forum, and as everybody else is giving you plenty of good input too.
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    After doing much thinking on what would actually be best, I went with a .45 ACP pistol stocked with good hollow points and a light.

    It has far less of a chance of existing my house than any rifle round, causes a very large wound with adequate penetration, and much easier to clear a room with than a long gun sticking out around corners.

    I suppose my runners up would be a 5.56 loaded with some kind of rapidily expanding bullet or a short semi-automatic shotgun loaded with #4 or #1 buck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    I'd buy an M&P sport. Or do like Johnny Cash, and buy my AR one piece at a time.
    Yeah but Johnny didn't buy it. He snuck the parts out in his big lunch box....Hey maybe I should get a job at FNH?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cltyus1 View Post
    Thanks Jim, I also have #4 in mine as well. Just wanted a rifle to add to my beginning stage of my gun collection you know. Something to play with at the range, but can also be used for HD if ever needed thats all.
    Like several of the guys have said, a pistol-caliber carbine might be a good choice. The Kel-Tec's, Rugers, or Berettas are all nice, and if you're on a budget, the Hi-Point carbine is an option. We have a Hi-Point .40 that has been 100% reliable and is a real hoot to shoot. Best bang-for-the-buck in its class. Wish it had a hi-cap magazine option.

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    I'll second the Keltec Sub200. Recently got one as a relatively inexpensive utility gun to match my Glock 9mm's and it's fun to shoot. The design is simple and seems durable.

    If your looking for more of a "battle rifle" type HD gun though the first firearms that come to mind in or under the $700 range would be an....AK stlye rifle, Ruger Mini, SKS, maybe a KelTec SU-16c...the Saiga and VEPR lines of rifles that have been hitting our markets utilize almost every popular battle round in different versions, and are usually reasonably priced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cltyus1 View Post
    Hey, I am new to the forum, not sure if anyone has posted this. I currently have a glock 23 and a Remington 870. I am looking for a rifle that could possibly be used for home defense (probably 223 or 5.56). I am looking for the most affordable yet pretty dependable rifle I can find. I am look at spending maybe $700...less if possible. Thank you guys!
    Assuming close quarters, I would recommend a light semi-auto shotgun with a short barrel and a pistol-grip, no but-stock. Put a lite on it if you'd like. Stay away from non-lethal rounds as they only invite lawsuits.

    I could give specific model names but there are quite a few viable options.

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    Mini 14 all the way. Just don't go for the goofy one with the pistol grip and crap.

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