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    Looking for some suggestions

    I've finally gotten the money set aside for my first AR. I've received some good pointers from forum members, either via PM or from just reading some of the different threads, but I'm looking for a last blast of info before I finally pull the trigger.

    What I'm looking for: A quality 16" rifle that I can use for home defense, range shooting, small game hunting, and TEOTWAWKI.
    How I'll use it: Based on how often I shoot my handguns, I expect to shoot about once a month for 100-200 rounds.
    Budget: between $2000 and $3000 for the gun, flip-up irons, a red dot (I like the Aimpoint PRO), mags, and some basic training to get started.

    Some of the brands that I have considered are Sig, BCM, Daniel Defense, and LaRue. Also, I'm not sure if I'm better off shopping for a complete "out-of-the-box" gun or if I should buy the parts and assemble it myself. Thanks in advance for any advice you guys can provide.

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    Paging jonconsiglio paging jonconsiglio. Actually I'm pretty sure he'd say bcm of daniel defense but don't quote me.
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    I'm not an expert but I have two BCMs and they are very, very nice. I'd hype them up for you but I don't run them very hard like the pros do. I also have an M&P 15 and I like it as well but the specs are not as good as on the BCMs.

    As far as ARs go the mainstay is Colt. Look at the Colt 6920 in addition to the other makers you have mentioned. A top notch AR can be had for around 1000 to 1200 dollars. That would leave you plenty of $$$ for add ons, mags, ammo and a nice optic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atctimmy View Post
    As far as ARs go the mainstay is Colt. Look at the Colt 6920 in addition to the other makers you have mentioned. A top notch AR can be had for around 1000 to 1200 dollars. That would leave you plenty of $$$ for add ons, mags, ammo and a nice optic.
    ^^^

    From what I heard Colt is "top of the line". Timmy and Jon both know what they're talking about, I'm sure Jon will be here shortly.
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    I'd get the Colt 6920 and not look back.

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    I'm glad you put training on your shopping list. Get some familiarity with the gun and lots of rounds downrange, then look for a carbine course. I highly recommend PAt Rogers of EAG Tactical, and Texas is usually on his list of training venues each year.
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    Price check for ya. The second Colt in FDE looks SCHWEET! I'd be all over that if I was buying.

    Colt LE 6920 at G and R Tactical

    Colt LE 6920MP M4 16 Magpul MOE at G and R Tactical

    BCM 16 Mid-Length Rifle at G and R Tactical
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    Thanks for the suggestions. A lot of my initial info came from jonconsiglio via pms, but based on his sig, he's busy with other stuff these days, so I'm reaching out. That Colt LE 6920MP M4 16 Magpul MOE at G and R Tactical looks sweet, Timmy, and I like the fact that I can customize some of the parts via G&R's ordering system. That being said, I know that one of my local gun shops has a Daniel Defense M4 Carbine, V5 in stock for $1,675. While I like the FDE coloring of the Colt, I like the flat top of the DD v5. I'm open to more suggestions, though. Keep them coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penhall View Post
    Thanks for the suggestions. A lot of my initial info came from jonconsiglio via pms, but based on his sig, he's busy with other stuff these days, so I'm reaching out. That Colt LE 6920MP M4 16 Magpul MOE at G and R Tactical looks sweet, Timmy, and I like the fact that I can customize some of the parts via G&R's ordering system. That being said, I know that one of my local gun shops has a Daniel Defense M4 Carbine, V5 in stock for $1,675. While I like the FDE coloring of the Colt, I like the flat top of the DD v5. I'm open to more suggestions, though. Keep them coming.
    I'm not going to bash DD. They make a good product (or so I've heard) but $1675 is really pricey when other great makers are around $1000.

    To be fair and honest I did the same thing as you a couple years ago and I got 90% of my info from Jon. He really knows his stuff. I'll get back to you with some other flat top guns for less money.


    ETA: OK I started with a BCM lower. for around $400 depending on your add ons.
    http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin...on&key=LWR-BCM

    Now an upper or two from BCM. There are other great companies out there but I'm more familiar with BCM and their website.

    http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-1...it12%20fde.htm

    http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-1...-mi-ssg212.htm

    http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-M...2x%20mit10.htm
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    Anyone have any experience with pistons over DI? I was thinking about Sig Sauer 516 Patrol rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penhall View Post
    Anyone have any experience with pistons over DI? I was thinking about Sig Sauer 516 Patrol rifle.
    Read this:

    Gas vs. Piston
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    I would definitely get the Dodge Viper. Wait I didn't read the question, AR? No clue, we only have neutered versions out here, sorry.
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    Thanks for that, Timmy. Based on that read, I think I'll stick to a DI for my first gun. Now if I could just figure out what that's going to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penhall View Post
    Thanks for that, Timmy. Based on that read, I think I'll stick to a DI for my first gun. Now if I could just figure out what that's going to be.
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    Is Rock River on the same level as Colt, BCM, Daniel Defense, etc? It's been recommended by some folks, but wasn't on the list of brands to consider that jonconsiglio provided me about 8 months ago.

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