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Good vid! I learned a few things. Thanks for posting!
As always, great video!
The stupidity of some people NEVER ceases to amaze me.
I never had much interest in Bullpups. Don't care for the action that close to my face.
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I don't care for bullpups either. I don't like how far back the mags are. It looks like an awkward reload.
Nice for home defense......
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I'm a lefty....nuff said.
Good video though.
M4carbine moderator, and Bronze Star recipient, Failure2Stop taught CQB and small arms to the Brits and posted his experience with the SA80. Though it's not bullpups in general, a lot of the issues are common across the board.
Rational Gun: Actual friggin' data on the SA80
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Bullpups are what they are. I do think most people that love them so much do so because they've never had to run the stupid things. I'd take the worst AR or AK carbine over the best bullpup any day, but that's just me.
Most impressive part of the video to me was the watch. I don't know how many videos of yours I've seen, but I do know that's the first time I noticed that bad boy on your wrist. You get a like just for that.
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I feel the only benefit of the bullpup is the shortness of it, though that is the main reason they exist. If you just run a 10" AR, you're likely to have the same length firearm. Plus you still get adjustable length of pull unlike bullpups. But the bullpup still has the velocity benefit comparing a 16" to 10" rifle, assuming we're talking about 5.56 here. But at CQB distances, that the bullpup is designed for, velocity won't matter as much as it would when fighting out past 100 yards or so. So therefore, the only downside of an 10" AR vs a 16" bullpup will then be muzzle blast. A suppressor would help but then it will make overall length back to what the rifle was initially.
I was also going to mention the Submariner. I had a fake one as a kid. I have a few Seiko's, a Luminox and a Citizen. I've been wanting a GMT-II Pro Hunter for awhile. But, not quite in my price range.
Sometimes I think I wouldn't mind a Steyr AUG....then I see the price tag. I think I would be a lot more favorable to these things if they were even in the same ballpark as a good AR, but I just don't see the value the way things are now on the market.
A couple of questions for those in the know....
1) do malfunctions arise when engaging a target above the shooter when using the F2000? Is there enough force to eject the shells upward?
2) wouldn't a simple brass deflector on an AUG help with the issue of brass in your face when firing left handed?
3) anybody know the origin of the term "bullpup"?
Not that I have the funds for such a toy, but I was just curious.
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Seems like a useful weapon system for extreme situations. Everybody is used to the ar style, but I feel like most people could transition quickly. I feel like the ar is more versatile for average guys who want to defend their property and their families, especially since military members can run it, but the bullpup seems like a good option for police, security personnel, and even some military units. The car demonstration was very good.
Ever since I was a teen, I've acknowledged to myself that they can be damn sexy. I'm biased in their favor, just because of their looks
edit: That was a really well done video. Good quality, good pacing, good vocals!
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