Which shall be a safe queen?
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My good fortune has lead me to an interesting question. I recently purchased 2 new AR's. The first, a Sig M400 Tactical Rifle ...
March 14th, 2013 07:05 AM
Which shall be a safe queen?
My good fortune has lead me to an interesting question. I recently purchased 2 new AR's. The first, a Sig M400 Tactical Rifle with carry handle. It was purchased quickly after the Sandy Hook incident. The second was stumbled upon last week and is a Armalite M-15 A4 flattop without a rear sight. To fund the Armalite, I am in the process of selling my Bushmaster post ban XM-15 without a flash suppressor and a 20" barrel (currently on consignment at my LGS). My questions are numerous, so here it goes.....
1. My plan is to shoot ONE of the new AR's and keep the other in the safe for future trading or SHTF needs. Good idea?
2. Based on the specifications, both guns are decent, any suggestions on which one gets the easier life as a safe queen?
3. Should I pick up the consignment, keep it and keep both new guns as safe queens? (thinking not, but seeing how I am asking questions)
My main reason for only shooting one is the lack of availability of ammo. I have plenty, but really can't replace anything that I shoot getting familiar with my new rifle(s). My history is that I tend to become quite familiar with any firearm which I would consider for personal safety. When I bought my original AR, I fired nearly 1000 rounds through it to familiarize myself with the gun, its quirks and its operations. My main reason for selling the Bushmaster is I had to borrow some funds from my bride to fund the purchase of the Armalite. She has no issues and actually supports my gun habit, but I the funds I borrowed need to go back to the "future cruise fund".
Thank you in advance for any suggestions, they will be greatly appreciated!!
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Sigmund Jake 229
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March 14th, 2013 07:28 AM
I say NONE should be safe queens. They all should be fired regularly and enjoyed, when you can !!! God Bless
March 14th, 2013 07:57 AM
I don't see much point in safe queens either, but if you were to pick one, I'd wait until after you've shot both for a while.
The reasoning is that they're both new to you, therefore unproven as of yet. Get confidence in both, and you'll know that rifle is ready to run when you decide to use it again.
'Same reasoning on the Bushmaster. It's a shame to let go of a rifle that you're familiar with and have confidence in, but you may be already obligated there?
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March 14th, 2013 08:47 AM
None of them. Personally, I have no want or need for a gun that I can't shoot. I know not everyone is like this but that's my opinion. Shoot them all!
March 14th, 2013 09:06 AM
You say you want to be familiar with any rifle you have for self defense, but previously state that you want your SHTF rifle to be a "safe queen" that never gets shot?
I don't get it.
As the others have said, shoot them both and enjoy them both. Whichever one(s) you are going to rely on for defense/SHTF, shoot them as often as possible and train with them more than that.
March 14th, 2013 09:48 AM
No safe queens here. No matter if it is a duplicate, held for trading goods, or antique/collectible it is going to be taken out for "exercise." If I can't enjoy the experience of shooting a gun then I don't want it cluttering up space.
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March 14th, 2013 10:04 AM
Yeah, have to agree here... if I don't shoot it, why have it? I could never be a collector, cars or otherwise... I tend to enjoy the items I have, if not they get sold and I get something I do enjoy.
It's like having a supermodel for a wife and never having sex, what's the point?
March 14th, 2013 12:34 PM
She would take up lots of room in the safe too.
Originally Posted by Thunder71
March 14th, 2013 12:40 PM
Having three AR 15 is a bit much but like others I would not have a safe queen firearm.
Have you considered an Armalite AR 10 in .308? Big block AR's are a real blast to shoot. Pun intended.
And does your wife have a sister with similar attributes? LOL
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March 14th, 2013 01:16 PM
I don't own any safe queens, now some are shot more than others but they are all there to shoot
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March 14th, 2013 01:20 PM
Originally Posted by Moby
How many do you think he should be allowed to have?
March 14th, 2013 01:41 PM
Personally, I don't think I'd be selling ANY AR before at least January, 2017, if I could possibly help it. JMO.
Originally Posted by SigmundJake229
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March 14th, 2013 01:55 PM
I tend to not hoard stuff. You know, one wife, one dog, one cat, one truck, and one car. I do have two horses and as I tell people, I have only one butt. Therefore I can only ride one at a time. I have two horses because, horses are herd animals and need company. Firearms are not herd animals, so having a herd of them, to me, is silly. I can only shoot so many at once. I like one good handgun, one good rifle, one good shotgun and one good hand grenade. That's just me.
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March 14th, 2013 02:29 PM
Are you unhappy with the Bushmaster for one reason or another? Just wondering why, if you want to limit yourself to two ARs, you bought two new ones as opposed to buying one new one and keeping the Bushmaster.
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March 14th, 2013 02:42 PM
Both would be great safe queens... and I have plenty of room in MY safe for them
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