Winchester Model 12 ,new gun for me

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    Winchester Model 12 ,new gun for me

    Just picked a nice OLD model 12 today at the LGS, consignment sale gun. Previous owner had (badly ) sawed off the barrel and it is obvious this old girl had been neglected and ignored . No problem. I am taking her to get properly smithed , cleaned and ready to go to work for her next generations of service. They have a Winchester 97 goose gun as well but not sure if it is in my future. Sure is a gorgeous old gun, though.

    I'll keep you posted on how she shakes out. If for nothing else, I will own a slightly damaged classic that shoots.

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    Good luck on the mod 12, and glad to see its getting some help that it needs. Those are classic guns.
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    If it was sawed off hope he cut it way past 18",you know on the model 12 you can hold the trigger back and fire rounds as they chamber....there is a youtube video of an idiot demonstrating the technique in his living room
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    Back in the day the St.Louis PD used the Model 12 for their riot guns. I had occasion to handle a few
    growing up. Real work horse and kicked like a mule. I'd buy one in a heart beat for HD.
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    Ive got my grandfathers old model 12(RIP gramps) and it is pristine. Love it
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    Yea gatorbait51! Model 12 Winchesters are great! All my adult life, I've hunted with a Model 12 more than any other shotgun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmcgilvray View Post
    Yea gatorbait51! Model 12 Winchesters are great! All my adult life, I've hunted with a Model 12 more than any other shotgun.
    Agreed! They are a grand ole' gun that can still get things done proper. A while back I was passed down my grand dad's shot gun....a Fulton Model Side-By-Side made by L.C. Smith. My grand dad bought it in Illinois for the princely sum of $20, which included a box of shells. Gotta' love a good old scattergun.
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    I still have my first shotgun - a Model 12 I bought new in 1959. Still looks like it is brand new! And in my opinion, anyone who would saw off and abuse a Model 12 should be SHOT with it!!!! That's almost as bad as abusing your wife or child or dog!!!! Some things are just NOT forgiveable!!! It's like that Viking looking dude in the commercial that comes and drags the guys car, and wife/girlfriend, away saying the guy doesn't deserve it! Should have happened to the original owner who abused the gun. Glad to hear it now has a deserving and loving new owner.
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    Great gun, I used one duck hunting a few years back. Other than the safety being a pain for lefties it was a joy to shoulder and shoot.
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    They are great classic shotgun that you can pass on to your heirs!
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    The photo's been posted here before, but here's the Winchester Model 12 that lives here. An uncommon Skeet Grade gun with high-grade wood, cut checkering, and a downright rare factory option Cutts Compensator. I got it from the original owner who ordered it this way, directly from Winchester in 1941, just before the War started. The Cutts really does reduce recoil if one uses high-brass shells. Not so much with light field loads. It also makes the gun louder with the high-brass shells. The factory provided a special barrel having a boss, integral with the barrel, to receive the Cutts Compensator attachment. A very neatly executed way to attach the choke system and the way to ascertain that the choke is the original factory option. Uses choke tubes and a set of them came with the gun. I only ever use the skeet choke and the modified choke. The hideous-looking Cutts ruins the lines and looks of the shotgun but works as advertised and makes the shotgun undeniably more useful. It's one of the few scarce factory options for classic firearms that actually lowers the value of the gun.

    But, it is what it is.


    The Model 12's day as a skeet gun is long past, pump guns being passé on the skeet range, but I shot this one on skeet leagues for the employer for a few years and it gave a good account of itself. It's a fine performer on a skeet range and murder on dove over a Texas stock tank or ducks over decoys. An old scanned photo of the Model 12 with it's bag for the day, taken in late afternoon sun.
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    Beautiful wood on that gun. Thanks for the pics.

    For some reason, I thought model 12s had a ribbed forend. Maybe its just been the ones I have seen.
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    The photo's been posted here before, but here's the Winchester Model 12 that lives here. An uncommon Skeet Grade gun with high-grade wood, cut checkering, and a downright rare factory option Cutts Compensator. I got it from the original owner who ordered it this way, directly from Winchester in 1941, just before the War started. The Cutts really does reduce recoil if one uses high-brass shells. Not so much with light field loads. It also makes the gun louder with the high-brass shells. The factory provided a special barrel having a boss, integral with the barrel, to receive the Cutts Compensator attachment. A very neatly executed way to attach the choke system and the way to ascertain that the choke is the original factory option. Uses choke tubes and a set of them came with the gun. I only ever use the skeet choke and the modified choke. The hideous-looking Cutts ruins the lines and looks of the shotgun but works as advertised and makes the shotgun undeniably more useful. It's one of the few scarce factory options for classic firearms that actually lowers the value of the gun.

    But, it is what it is.


    The Model 12's day as a skeet gun is long past, pump guns being passé on the skeet range, but I shot this one on skeet leagues for the employer for a few years and it gave a good account of itself. It's a fine performer on a skeet range and murder on dove over a Texas stock tank or ducks over decoys. An old scanned photo of the Model 12 with it's bag for the day, taken in late afternoon sun.

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    Hi StormRyder;

    The ribbed barrel was a factory option on the Model 12 and is fairly commonly seen. I've seen far more solid-ribbed barrels on the Model 12 than vent ribs but both could be had as options. I'm guessing the vent ribs mostly appear as a Model 12 option on later vintage shotguns. Some plain-barreled Model 12s were fitted with aftermarket accessory ribs over the years as well.

    I like the look of a Model 12 with factory solid rib barrel.
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    Here is the little brother to the Great Model 12 Winchester, the Model 42, 1933 production date. I used this one for the .410 event in Skeet before I went to an over an under. Not original, of course, it was in very poor shape when purchased.

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    I'd punch multiple likes for that Model 42 if this thing would let me.

    A gun I've come close to adding to the menagerie on an occasion or two but didn't.
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