I think that "loose lips sink ships."
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Gun Review: Sig SB15 Pistol Stabilizing Brace Review - The Firearm Blog
SBR's (aka short barreled rifles) are fussy and expensive to get with all sorts of nonsense extra background checks, tax stamps, strict "forbidden to even have parts in possession prior to the tax stamp from the BATF" and in some states like mine (MI), SBR's are outright outlawed.
Well Sig's new SB-15 "arm brace" is supposed to be a brace to stabilize ones arm while shooting a AR style "pistol". It's an interesting ruling by the ATF and there's no real requirement on how a gun with this stock/brace/whatever should be held or fired (see the attached articles).
What do you think?
I personally think I'll be saving up some money to get me a Sig AR pistol with SB-15 stock... err ... arm brace ;)
Last edited by DetChris; October 30th, 2013 at 11:16 PM.
I think that "loose lips sink ships."
The more good folks carry guns, the fewer shots the crazies can get off.
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Pay to play, it's that simple. Spending $1-2k on a rifle, and squabbling over a $200 tax stamp is ludicrous IMO. Especially when all you have to do is purchase a $59 lower (from a company like PSA) and then send in the $200 check. $259 for an SBR...that's it! Then you have 6-9 months to build your upper. Which by the way doesn't cost any more or less than a 14.5 or 16.
Notice how all demo guns have what look to be 7.5" barrels...put a 11.5-12.5" barrel on that and see if you want to shoot it as pictured.
If I can't shoulder the gun, I mine as well be shooting a pistol (exaggeration but you get the idea). This and AR pistols are stupid.
ETA: they're not fussy if they're built right. They're fussy because everyone and their inbred brother are 'building' ARs nowadays. These idiots need to stop messing with guns and go back to picking boogers and drooling on themselves.
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Seems like a bad idea. While ATF may say it is ok now, they could reverse their opinion at any time too. MI was looking to pass a SBR law I believe, why not wait and see if it goes through?
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If folks want that thing, and that makes them happy, Im fine with them being able to buy it. Me, if I won that thing in a raffle, Id sell it so fast it would make your head spin, and buy a good Colt, DD, BC, or Spikes AR, and be very happy with it.
I've played around with them and I'm not impressed.
As the owner of several SBRs though, I might be biased.
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Anyway, the ATF itself classified the brace as a supplement to the AR style pistol. Buying one is nothing illegal. If they were to change their mind (or threaten to - but heck they haven't changed their mind on bump fire stocks yet) then I'll just remove the brace and dump it in the garbage.
I used to be in the anti AR pistol crowd, right up until I bought one on a whim. I actually like it.
Anyway, the biggest issue I have with the whole SBR route is traveling with the gun. The main reason I wanted it was for multi state road trips.
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many beneifits to an ar pistol
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