Of those, the M&P would be my only choice.
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Newby here and excited to be here.
I am going to ask the most asked question in the world, so be kind please. :) I realize there are millions of threads on this same topic, but I am just looking for some interactive opinions. I am about to purchase an AR... I have it narrowed down to these rifles. Let me know your opinion and personal thoughts.
I really don't want to invest more than around $850 in the rifle itself, but I have it narrowed down to these. Prices are what I can get them through my dealer. Opinions on that are greatly appreciated as well.
Bushmaster XM-15 ORC $749.00
M&P 15OR $802.00
Armalite 15ACB 15A4 $765.61
Rock River AR1850 A4 STD $790.00
I am leaning towards the Bushmaster right now. I am not interested in Stag, DPMS, or other brands. Nothing against them, just not what I am wanting. I realize much comes down to opinion, but that is what I am looking for.
Of those, the M&P would be my only choice.
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The entry level Bushy would not be on my list.
I concur with Jon, of the list supplied, the M&P is the way to go. I became rather dis-enchanted with my bushmaster when I found out they used red loc-tite on the castle nut (on their commercial grade buffer tubes). I didn't particularly like having to use a torch to do a simple end plate swap on my rifle.
I would recommend figuring out what you want in a rifle, and buying the closest possible to that, so you don't wind up paying twice for pieces. Personally, for carbines, I like mil-spec, chrome lined, 1:7 twist barrel, mid length gas systems, 5.56 chamber, A3 reciever (flat top), M-16 style bolt carrier group, MPI tested bolt, properly staked gas keys, and probably a few other little things I am forgetting. Things like handguards and stocks can be swapped later, but if you can buy with what you already want, that is better.
If you have questions on any of those above traits, there are plenty of references around, feel free to ask.
I do have to ask, with the optics ready carbine, what kind of sight set-up are you looking to use?
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I'd go with the M&P OR by a wide margin. In fact I wouldn't buy any of the other brands, I'd go with a PSA over all others listed.
I had one of the M&P OR carbines and it was great. I had no failures of any kind, not a one in about 3000 rounds. It ate cheap Russian ammo with no problems and was a great knock around gun.
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Define what you want it for and buy accordingly.
But read first, read much and do it all before you spend a dime.
Out of the bunch you listed the M&P-15 OR would be an excellent choice. One other that is not listed in your list is the PSA which is in your price range. PSA's are very good as well.
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M&P is what all of my local friends have (who did not build them from ordered parts). They love them and they feed flawlessly. Several USED TO have Bushmasters that they got tired of dealing with issues on and traded them in on M&Ps.
The friends who assembled them from parts spent a little more but ended up with WONDERFUL firearms.
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The M&P is your best option on your list. I have a higher grade M&P AR 15. I have had zero problems with it, though it doesnt really like steel cased ammo. Then again, many ARs dont.
PSA also deserve a look, IMO. Oh, I would increase my budget, were I you. You will pay less if you get factory options, than if you buy after market addons. Like rails instead of simply hand guards.
Btw, OP I see you are in OK. They GOT to have walmarts where you are. The walmart where Im at has at least 4 grades of Colt ARs in stock, and they are well worth considering.
Good luck, and enjoy.
Connsolo, it's a good deal even with an additional $100 shipping and transfer fees added considering he would have to pay that to get his other rifle anyway.
Especially so, for the Colt upper (and BCG) and all the additional Magpul parts added to both the upper and lower.
Sorry - I should have listed that. I am looking to invest in an Eotech 552 or something similar, or an ACOG. Will have flip ups. This will be a sole defense/offense weapon not for causal plinking. That said, I do plan on shooting it plenty, so reliability is huge. From the looks of things, folks have a lot of confidence in M&P.
I want to keep the weapon relatively simple though. I don't want too much "battle bling". I want it to be capable and still versatile. The configuration you describe is something very desirable to me. 1:7 twist, chrome lined, ect.
I love the 6920... But it's just not for me. Too many of my buddies are Colt Fan Boys... I wanna be a little different. I will look into the PSA's... Can't say I have heard of them too much. $800 OTD? Promising... Thanks for the advice.