.30 (7.62) rifle help

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    .30 (7.62) rifle help

    I'm looking for a rifle similar to the Socom 16 or Mini 30. I want a rifle in .30, preferably .308...7.62x39 if need be. I don't want an AR. I already have one. Aside from a SKS and AK, what else out there is 7.62 magazine fed? I know about the Ruger Gunsite Scout but I'm not crazy about the bolt action. My Remington 700 has that covered. What else is there? The Socom 16 is $1,800 in my area and the Mini 30 is non-existent. Thanks.
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    I too am in the same decision stance as you. The other choices are the Sig 556R which uses 7.62x39 and can currently be purchased for $997 BNIB and also the PTR91 which fires 7.62x51 / .308. I hope this helps. God Bless :)

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    There's always the FAL, currently produced by DS Arms - price is in the same neighborhood as the M1A1/Socom 16.

    If you're looking for something other than battle/defensive rifles, there's the Browning BAR (semi-auto), BLR (lever action) and Remington 7600 - all chambered in .308 and all are magazine fed.
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    I like the SKS. It's inexpensive, rugged and, accurate. I used mine to deer and hog hunt. When I raised or lowered it from my stand, a scratch wouldn't bother me as it would on an expensive rifle. Size was also good, too in negotiating the thicker woods, swamps and, blow-downs. Semi-auto meant that I could quickly fire multiple rounds if I was to suddenly meet up with an aggressive hog. It's a good, reliable weapon for the cost of just under $300.
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    Sig 716 and the FN SCAR 17 are a couple of other box fed semi auto 7.62NATO options. Sig is less $$ than the M1A. SCAR is more.

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    I went through this same decision a while back. Decided on a Marlin 336 lever gun in .30-30. While it has a tube magazine, I find that I like it. Easy to top off on the fly, and adding a butt cuff gives 10+6+1 on the gun, in a very light and handy package. And for the price of the other options, you can outfit your entire family with lever guns. Just a consideration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 10thmtn View Post
    I went through this same decision a while back. Decided on a Marlin 336 lever gun in .30-30. While it has a tube magazine, I find that I like it. Easy to top off on the fly, and adding a butt cuff gives 10+6+1 on the gun, in a very light and handy package. And for the price of the other options, you can outfit your entire family with lever guns. Just a consideration.

    Depending on the usage a 44 mag lever gun is in the league but doubles the loaded ammo.
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    When America first got into the Vietnam War troops carried the M14 30cal MBR. A decent shot would kill a VC with one round. God only knows why but America went with the M16 cuz troops could carry 300R of 556 easier than 200R of 30cal. If you want a good MBR and it's affordable and you don't mind humping the weight my vote would be for an M1A.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gasmitty View Post
    There's always the FAL, currently produced by DS Arms - price is in the same neighborhood as the M1A1/Socom 16.

    If you're looking for something other than battle/defensive rifles, there's the Browning BAR (semi-auto), BLR (lever action) and Remington 7600 - all chambered in .308 and all are magazine fed.
    I forgot about the FN FAL as Gasmitty mentions above. This is a strong weapon also. The BAR from WWII fame is a brute. Depending on model they run IIRC 13-14 to 17 pounds less loaded mag. I picked one up about 3-4 years ago at a gun show. No way at my age I could hump a BAR now...I'm built more like carrying an M1 Carbine. Getting old kinda sucks the big one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NONAME762 View Post
    I forgot about the FN FAL as Gasmitty mentions above. This is a strong weapon also. The BAR from WWII fame is a brute. Depending on model they run IIRC 13-14 to 17 pounds less loaded mag. I picked one up about 3-4 years ago at a gun show. No way at my age I could hump a BAR now...I'm built more like carrying an M1 Carbine. Getting old kinda sucks the big one.
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    As for the .308s, the old Belgian Browning B.A.Rs were real sweethearts. Winchester 100s were great rifles. Lightweight too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 40Bob View Post
    Depending on the usage a 44 mag lever gun is in the league but doubles the loaded ammo.
    If I'm reaching for a rifle, I want a rifle - something that will defeat soft body armor and other intermediate barriers. A butt cuff solves the capacity issue. No contest - I'd go .30-30, and the OP is looking for a .30-something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gasmitty View Post
    There's always the FAL, currently produced by DS Arms - price is in the same neighborhood as the M1A1/Socom 16.

    If you're looking for something other than battle/defensive rifles, there's the Browning BAR (semi-auto), BLR (lever action) and Remington 7600 - all chambered in .308 and all are magazine fed.

    ^^^^Sounds as though^^^^^^^^

    The FAL, or any of its variants (HK93, STG?58), with the CETEME being the lowest end of the spectrum, but certainly not a bad choice, would be a good fit by your post.
    ^^^I think that's right(the ST variant)
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    There is also the Saiga Sporter 7.62X39. Price runs in the $350-400 range. I picked mine up at a C&E Gun Show a couple of years back. I notice C&E has a show in Fayetteville the weekend of Dec 7&8.

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    CETME = HK G3 built in Spain by a Spanish Government Armory. The semi version is called the HK 41.


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