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Vepr, Arsenal, or Socom 16?

This is a discussion on Vepr, Arsenal, or Socom 16? within the Defensive Rifles & Shotgun Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by MD_Willington VEPR may be coming back... FBMG has put out a few teasers on the subject... http://www.gunsnet.net/forums/showthread.php?t=289684...

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  • Vepr K 7.62x39mm

    8 10.96%
  • Vepr K 5.56

    1 1.37%
  • Arsenal 7.62x39mm

    13 17.81%
  • Arsenal 5.56

    0 0%
  • Springfield Armory M1A Socom 16

    51 69.86%
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    Quote Originally Posted by MD_Willington View Post
    VEPR may be coming back... FBMG has put out a few teasers on the subject...
    http://www.gunsnet.net/forums/showthread.php?t=289684
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    I read a little on that topic over on ak-47.net. Who knows if they will actually import them, but if they do I might be giving them a look. That is if they are up to the same standards as the ones imported by RA. The guys that make Saiga bought the Molot factory and who knows if they will just be Saigas with "Vepr" stamped on them.
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    Prices sure are going up. I bought my Robarm VEPR II K (i.e. converted) with muzzle brake in 7.62x39 for somewhere around $535 including tax in July of 2005.

    Atlantic is now estiamting prices for unconverted rifles as...
    Quote Originally Posted by Atlantic Firearms
    762 x 39 Vepr $599 -$629
    .308 Vepr $639 -$659
    .223 Vepr $600-$629
    Add at least a couple hundred after conversion. They go on to estimate for the real nice features...
    Quote Originally Posted by Atlantic Firearms
    ACE skeleton side folder the Vepr converted units will probably be priced around $950 ish,
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    Cool.. sucks on the price though... and 20" .223 instead of 16"

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    If I find a good used or NIB Vepr II imported by Robarm then I might snatch her up. But I think I'd rather have an Arsenal over the new Veprs made under Saiga. When a lower quality company takes over a high quality company they tend to screw it up. Only time will tell.

    I used to have a residential and comercial lawn service and noticed a similar occurence. Lawn Boy used to make the finest comercial 21" mowers. I mean I have never used a better mower. Then Toro bought them out and guess what, not they are total crap. The new Lawnboys are just green Toros. It's sad.
    Yeah I like Glocks, wanna fight about it!

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    S/A M1A Scout 18in barrel uses the same exact parts as a standard M1A
    I don't believe the Socom does.
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    You, for some silly and unreasonable rationale are attempting to narrow a decision to one rifle. That's bad juju my brother. Plan on buying all of them and just decide which one first.
    Last edited by swedgin; January 27th, 2007 at 04:21 AM.

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    I try to have that theory with handguns. I shoot handguns alot more and I am just drawn to handguns more.
    Yeah I like Glocks, wanna fight about it!

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    rifle choice

    i know it is a little off topic but i am happy with the performance of my mini-30. it is reliable, very accurate with good ammo, & i just simply like the look of the rifle. flame on me if you want, but it is a reliable, well built rifle.

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    I have no practical use for any of these, so I went with the least practical choice; SOCOM
    Whatever doesn't kill you postpones the inevitable.

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    I've got a Springfield Armory M1A (M14 Type) Scout Squad, mahogany stock in 7.62X51 with 15 spare 20 round MilSpec mags by CMI. Mounts an Aimpoint 5000XD 2X scope.
    Then as its little brother backup I've got a Ruger Mini 14 Ranch Rifle with Hogue stock in .223 with 15 spare 30 round mags by Promag. Mounts an Aimpoint 5000 scope.
    Plus plenty of plentys of ammo in storage for each.
    Once I got the M1A I just had to have the Mini 14 as well. They both go nice with all my other guns.
    "There is no such thing as too much ammo. Unless you're swimming!"

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    Voted for the 7.62x39.

    Like Rob mentions, the SOCOM may still have some bugs to work out.

    The 5.56 mags will always be harder [ less plentiful ] to find than AK 7.62x39 mags.

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    I would love to have a Socom, but I voted for the Vepr in 7.62x39.
    This is a wellrounded usable rifle, save for the Socom and maybe a 5.56 later.

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    This has been floating awhile, so I'll stir the pot: I would not go with the SOCOM, unless you have $$ to burn, and want novelty, at this point. For the price of the better AKs, you can get a JLD PTR, in .308. Easily as accurate as any of the other choice (if not more so), cheap mags, available parts, US made, and retaining all the Whoopa** imparted by the .308.

    Sarco still has them at a good price, I believe........

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    well.........

    I'd get a AK.
    You can still hunt....medium sized game at realistic hunting distances....since your hunts are rare(as are mine) a five round mag and 154 gr SP's should do most of what you need doing(unless you plan of baggin' moose or elk or some specialty critter).
    The AK works. It has good penetration, ammo is cheap, and as mentioned you can buy three for the price of a Socom and EOTech. Not too mention the price of ammo and mags.
    Plus it gives you a military classic with GLOBAL influence.
    For any real world serious stuff....disasters, SHTF, Zombies, riots, civil war....I want an AK with me.
    My opinion, for what its worth.

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