January 17th, 2007 01:34 AM
What do you think about the collapsable stock
I'm thinking about gettinga collapsable stock for my AR, but I would like to hear opinions on wheither it's worth buying one and switching it out with the current stock.
"[T]he people are not to be disarmed of their weapons.
They are left in full possession of them."
Zacharia Johnson (speech in the Virginia Ratifying Convention,25 June 1778)"The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed."
January 17th, 2007 02:12 AM
I have one on my AK and I love it.
January 17th, 2007 03:20 AM
The only retractable stock worth purchasing is the "CRANE" SOPMOD stock. The standard M4 type stock has mostly been replaced by the "CRANE" stock. Depending on how much your willing to spend, this may not be to your liking. LMT (Lewis Machine Tool) has them for $264 on their websight. I've used this stock for some time and cannot imagine going back to an A2 stock or the standard M4 retractable. It's certainly a personal preference item, but the LMT SOPMOD gives the shooter a nice a 500 thread count pillow to rest his or her cheek on.
Originally Posted by Dakotaranger
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January 17th, 2007 07:10 AM
On the AR I personally could live without one.
But, they are a nice add-on.
I would not add one just to have one but, depending on your intended use for that firearm a collapsible stock could have some value.
January 17th, 2007 07:23 AM
My CAR style stock seems to work fine. Some guys have said their beards get caught in the buffer tube/stock area while shooting though.
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January 17th, 2007 07:45 AM
Unless you have to manuver the rifle in tight quarters such as a vehicle there is no practical reason to go with a collapsable stock , and weapon ergonomics do seem to suffer a bit .
That being said ... LOL The ar platform is pretty much a " barbi for big boys " so dress the little sucker up anyway that suits you , if you dont like it well then put a whole different suit of clothes on it . LOL
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January 17th, 2007 09:02 AM
I like the M4 stock. It makes it easier to transport and also makes it more user friendly when the wife or kid shoots (ok, the kid hasn’t shot it yet, but when she does it will be more user-friendly for her). And to me the ergonomics do not suffer at all. I am just as comfortable with a collapsible stock as I am with a standard.
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January 17th, 2007 09:31 AM
I like the M4 stock for two reasons:
1. Adapts the gun for my wife, who is smaller than I.
2. In the short position, makes maneuvering the gun indoors much easier.
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January 17th, 2007 09:57 AM
The ACE alloy collapsing stock is excellent, and will take any pounding that might need to be done with it.
January 17th, 2007 10:05 AM
I have a cheap Chinese made slider for my Ar off of CTD. I like it. My main reason for getting it was storage space. Second was to try and get the OAL to less than 30" so it would be considered a pistol in MI and I could carry it in my vehicle loaded outside of a case. I missed it by 1.25", so I have to find some other gun to do it with.
I haven't shot it yet so can't comment on handling, although it is nice that my wife can adjust it for her munchkin stature.
January 17th, 2007 10:45 AM
I like the adjustable stock for these reasons: (* indicates reasons that probably don't matter)
*1. I can shorten it if I'm wearing body armor or heavy clothing.
2. Takes up less space
3. Easier to carry
4. My shorter friends and family can use it
*5. If I have the attached grenade launcher, I can fire it with my dominant hand with the rifle shouldered. (With a fixed stock it's either non-dominant hand or buttstock in the underarm)
I dislike it for these reasons:
*1. I'm taught when going to a prone position: plant the buttstock, roll to non-firing hip, assume firing position. I have a completely irrational fear that on step 1, something may break causing the weapon to collapse on my firing hand. That would be bad juju.
This fear is irrational because I've never seen it or heard of it happening, probably best to ignore this reason.
2. If I ever need to smack somebody with it, I'd prefer the solid stock.
*3. No storage.
January 17th, 2007 12:00 PM
There is one possible pitfall if you go with a collapsible stock on a home defense weapon. Most collapsible stocks have a bunch of different lengths. If you collapse the stock for storage, it can be difficult to deploy it to just the length you want in a hurry (unless you regularly use the maximum length). You're either left fiddling with it in a dangerous situation, or stuck using it at a length you've never practiced with. If this is going to be a weapon you might need in a hurry, just keep the stock at the proper setting and don't mess with it.
January 17th, 2007 12:26 PM
I have not shot many AR's, and am only in the process of purchasing my first. But, nicely, my arms are of the knuckle-draggin' variety (ie, they're long). The adjustable stock at full length (6th position) is perfect for standard shooting, given standard clothing. Two clicks in (4th position) enables wearing my thickest coat, and I wouldn't have to worry about that position except in the field or on the range. So, for me, the downside to a defensive AR's stock needing to quickly be altered doesn't apply, and the advantages for more-permanent storage and transportability are worth the added cost. For me: worth it.
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the number of victims?
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January 17th, 2007 01:34 PM
LOL, me too, and like others, I can shoot and then my 8yr old can shoot right after me.
Originally Posted by ccw9mm
That LMT stock is nice BTW.
January 17th, 2007 02:35 PM
I like a solid stock better than a collapsible. I run a Sully stock with a 1" single point sling mount/spacer from Knights Armament. It brings the stock to about A1 length which works well for me. A2 stocks are WAYYYYYYY too long for most people.
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