I have one on my AK and I love it.
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I'm thinking about gettinga collapsable stock for my AR, but I would like to hear opinions on wheither it's worth buying one and switching it out with the current stock.
"[T]he people are not to be disarmed of their weapons.
They are left in full possession of them."
Zacharia Johnson (speech in the Virginia Ratifying Convention,25 June 1778)"The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed." ~Alexander Hamilton
I have one on my AK and I love it.
U.S. Army retired
On the AR I personally could live without one.
But, they are a nice add-on.
I would not add one just to have one but, depending on your intended use for that firearm a collapsible stock could have some value.
My CAR style stock seems to work fine. Some guys have said their beards get caught in the buffer tube/stock area while shooting though.
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Unless you have to manuver the rifle in tight quarters such as a vehicle there is no practical reason to go with a collapsable stock , and weapon ergonomics do seem to suffer a bit .
That being said ... LOL The ar platform is pretty much a " barbi for big boys " so dress the little sucker up anyway that suits you , if you dont like it well then put a whole different suit of clothes on it . LOL
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I like the M4 stock. It makes it easier to transport and also makes it more user friendly when the wife or kid shoots (ok, the kid hasn’t shot it yet, but when she does it will be more user-friendly for her). And to me the ergonomics do not suffer at all. I am just as comfortable with a collapsible stock as I am with a standard.
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I like the M4 stock for two reasons:
1. Adapts the gun for my wife, who is smaller than I.
2. In the short position, makes maneuvering the gun indoors much easier.
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I have a cheap Chinese made slider for my Ar off of CTD. I like it. My main reason for getting it was storage space. Second was to try and get the OAL to less than 30" so it would be considered a pistol in MI and I could carry it in my vehicle loaded outside of a case. I missed it by 1.25", so I have to find some other gun to do it with.
I haven't shot it yet so can't comment on handling, although it is nice that my wife can adjust it for her munchkin stature.
07/02 FFL/SOT since 2006
Probably the only home based FFL that doesn't do transfers.
I like the adjustable stock for these reasons: (* indicates reasons that probably don't matter)
*1. I can shorten it if I'm wearing body armor or heavy clothing.
2. Takes up less space
3. Easier to carry
4. My shorter friends and family can use it
*5. If I have the attached grenade launcher, I can fire it with my dominant hand with the rifle shouldered. (With a fixed stock it's either non-dominant hand or buttstock in the underarm)
I dislike it for these reasons:
*1. I'm taught when going to a prone position: plant the buttstock, roll to non-firing hip, assume firing position. I have a completely irrational fear that on step 1, something may break causing the weapon to collapse on my firing hand. That would be bad juju.
This fear is irrational because I've never seen it or heard of it happening, probably best to ignore this reason.
2. If I ever need to smack somebody with it, I'd prefer the solid stock.
*3. No storage.
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There is one possible pitfall if you go with a collapsible stock on a home defense weapon. Most collapsible stocks have a bunch of different lengths. If you collapse the stock for storage, it can be difficult to deploy it to just the length you want in a hurry (unless you regularly use the maximum length). You're either left fiddling with it in a dangerous situation, or stuck using it at a length you've never practiced with. If this is going to be a weapon you might need in a hurry, just keep the stock at the proper setting and don't mess with it.
I have not shot many AR's, and am only in the process of purchasing my first. But, nicely, my arms are of the knuckle-draggin' variety (ie, they're long). The adjustable stock at full length (6th position) is perfect for standard shooting, given standard clothing. Two clicks in (4th position) enables wearing my thickest coat, and I wouldn't have to worry about that position except in the field or on the range. So, for me, the downside to a defensive AR's stock needing to quickly be altered doesn't apply, and the advantages for more-permanent storage and transportability are worth the added cost. For me: worth it.
I like a solid stock better than a collapsible. I run a Sully stock with a 1" single point sling mount/spacer from Knights Armament. It brings the stock to about A1 length which works well for me. A2 stocks are WAYYYYYYY too long for most people.
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