Convert my 870?

Convert my 870?

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    Convert my 870?

    Hey guys,



    I have an 870 Express Magnum that is my bird/skeet gun... no mods. I also have a Hawk 981 as a truck gun. Ive decided to use a shotgun for an HD gun. My question is is it worth converting the 870 (buying a 20" barrel, sights, and mag extender) or just buy another Hawk with ghost rings. The cost would essentially be the same. I know the 870s as of late have had some QC issues but mine was purchased in the late 90s. Still an issue? I know some of you will dog on the Chinese knock off but Im here to tell you, they are built like tanks. Thanks for any insight.


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    So, would you be with a bird gun if you made the conversion?

    I haven't seen the Hawk in person before, but own several 870's from various years and all run without any issues. I would also perhaps steer you towards a Mossberg 500 combo, the ones that come with two barrels, as you could "kill two birds with one stone" without breaking the bank.

    I like the 870's and 500's equally due to there being several aftermarket parts readily available and they're reliable as heck.
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    Aftermarket stocks like pistol grips might not work on the express. Do your homework if you go with the 870 express espescially if its 20ga.

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    Well if I were to convert the 870 it would be as easy as throwing the longer barrel back in for clays and such. The Hawk accepts most every 870 part except the barrel so lots of options there. I do like mossbergs and I may get one one day but I can get a Hawk for at or under 150.

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    Whichever I go with Ill put the Magpul SGA furniture on so that shouldnt be an issue
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    In the situation you presented, my first thought is to add a dedicated HD scattergun. Granted it is cost effective to simply buy a shorter barrel and swap out, but there is a reason I say to add a new one. The 870 is a wonderfully built scattergun that will take a ton of abuse. But like all things man made problems can possibly arise down the road. I would scout the used market and find one that is reasonably priced and snatch it up. I actually just bought an 870 Express Tactical on Thursday of last week in EXCELLENT shape myself for $350 out the door. For the little bit of extra cash you lay-out for a used version you not only get another gun, you also have a potential source for spare parts should you run one into the dirt. You also have the ability to "seed" shotguns within your home with an extra scattergun. (If you aren't farmliar with the term "seeding" is the practice of placing guns strategically in your home so that you always are within reach of one no matter where you are.) So you could place one in the bedroom, and let's say, another in a coat closet in the living room. With the way things are going in society now, combined with the current political climate, it behoves a person now to think about the long term picture. So having an extra for possible parts years down the road makes sense, as does adding another firearm resource to your defensive battery. Used 870's are not expensive, and typically they will run a life time. Though your Hawk may have some interchangeable parts it is not fully compatible with the Remington. I have concerns with the Hawk as I have heard some of the components are cast, which in the Chinese case often spells long term trouble. Truthfully I am an 870 and Mossy 500 kind of guy, so I do have some bias on the subject.
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    thanks for the responses

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    Dedicated shotguns are better, its a pain in the ass to change ammo after you use it for something else and that one time you forget you will be in your undies with a empty gun or one full of birdshot with the waterfowl plug in.

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    Look for an old wingmaster, around here they generally go for $300 or so.

    The build quality on a Wingmaster is noticably higher than an express.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostMaker View Post
    In the situation you presented, my first thought is to add a dedicated HD scattergun. Granted it is cost effective to simply buy a shorter barrel and swap out, but there is a reason I say to add a new one. The 870 is a wonderfully built scattergun that will take a ton of abuse. But like all things man made problems can possibly arise down the road. I would scout the used market and find one that is reasonably priced and snatch it up. I actually just bought an 870 Express Tactical on Thursday of last week in EXCELLENT shape myself for $350 out the door. For the little bit of extra cash you lay-out for a used version you not only get another gun, you also have a potential source for spare parts should you run one into the dirt. You also have the ability to "seed" shotguns within your home with an extra scattergun. (If you aren't farmliar with the term "seeding" is the practice of placing guns strategically in your home so that you always are within reach of one no matter where you are.) So you could place one in the bedroom, and let's say, another in a coat closet in the living room. With the way things are going in society now, combined with the current political climate, it behoves a person now to think about the long term picture. So having an extra for possible parts years down the road makes sense, as does adding another firearm resource to your defensive battery. Used 870's are not expensive, and typically they will run a life time. Though your Hawk may have some interchangeable parts it is not fully compatible with the Remington. I have concerns with the Hawk as I have heard some of the components are cast, which in the Chinese case often spells long term trouble. Truthfully I am an 870 and Mossy 500 kind of guy, so I do have some bias on the subject.
    When you "seed" guns in your home,do you ever worry that an intruder might get to one before you get to him and use it on you?

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    I recently bought a Mossberg 500 combo with 26 and 18.5 inch barrels brand new for $349.

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