Going into battle

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    Going into battle

    If you were going into battle would you rather have the reliable AK or the more accurate AR

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    I'll take the AK.
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    Must we?

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    I'd take the AR. I can never get a good cheek weld on an AK.

    Besides AR's are pretty reliable.

    I only picked AR because FN-FAL isn't an option
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    Taking the AK.
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    I'm picking the AR over the AK. Only hits count. I'm not into spraying a lot of bullets indiscriminately all around. Just interested in hitting.
    Actually I'd really rather have an M14! And I do, a Springfield Armory M1A Scout Squad with Aimpoint 2X Red Dot Scope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nate View Post
    Must we?
    Thats why I included a poll...but I think it is a good question

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    AR, as I'm a lefty and that effectively rules out the AK series. But, I'm generally for 100% reliability as the first criterion of any weapon (which would dictate an AK).

    So. Guess you could say I'm between a rock and a hard place. (Got a Stag AR in December, BTW. Nice shooter.)
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    I voted AR, don't have an AK.
    We will be much better off when we learn to deal with things as they really are, instead of how we wish them to be!

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    Tough choice...

    AK- extremely reliable, 7.62 round (bigger hole)

    AR- reliable, smaller bullet, more accurate

    I would say for military operations where you are usually shooting longer distances than CQC I would go for the AR since it is still reliable. Tough choice though, can't really go wrong with either...

    Althogh if you have an AK you shouldn't have a problem using the enemies ammo :)

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    I voted AK for 4 reasons.

    1 I have an AK
    2 I don't have an AR
    3 The AKs well known reputation for absolute reliability under the worst conditions.
    4 I like the way they look. It's so ugly it's beautiful.
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    I'll take a AR over any day of the week and 2 times on saturday.

    I work in a gun store part time, and we rent a Bushy M4 forgery style AR with a Aimpoint Comp M3 on top.

    We also have 2 WASR centruys for rent.
    These three guns see more rent time then any other rentals in the store. They where bought at the same time. They have Never been cleaned. AFTER 10,000's of the thousands of rounds the AR is still running strong, no parts replaced on this gun from what I can remember. The AK's have are starting to show alot of wear on them, we have replaced trigger groups on both of them, a magazine catch that wouldn't drop the mag at all, and one had I think a piston crap out. How that even happened I have no idea!!!The accuracy is starting to slowly dwindle. We rent these guns for 25 dollars a pop so there is no $ or logic to have them cleaned. After one week they pay for them selves over and over again.

    After seeing this I would have to say AR. The newer AR's are extrememly reliable. We don't even oil our rental. I take that back I remember one weekend one of the employees picked it up and his hands turned black he grabbed some Paper towels and a small bottle of Mil tech and put some oil on the bolt carrier, closed it up with his pinkies (similiar to like a smelly dirty sock) and put it on the shelf as if non to the wiser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob99VMI04 View Post
    They have Never been cleaned. AFTER 10,000's of the thousands of rounds the AR is still running strong, no parts replaced on this gun from what I can remember. The AK's have are starting to show alot of wear on them, we have replaced trigger groups on both of them, a magazine catch that wouldn't drop the mag at all, and one had I think a piston crap out. How that even happened I have no idea!!!The accuracy is starting to slowly dwindle. We rent these guns for 25 dollars a pop so there is no $ or logic to have them cleaned. After one week they pay for them selves over and over again.

    After seeing this I woudl have to say AR. The newer AR's are extrememly reliable. We don't even oil our rental.
    Man... someone needs to take the hour or so and freakin' clean those things! C'mon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nate View Post
    Man... someone needs to take the hour or so and freakin' clean those things! C'mon.
    There is absolutley no cost benefit for us to clean the rentals. We rent the gun. 300-400 times before it probably goes KAPUT the AR on some Saturdays is rented like 10-12 times. 25 dollars a pop, whats dealer cost on a base flat top M4orgery 5-6 hundred maybe.
    clean that thing would take what 2 days, with that much crap in,on, under, ontop of, caked, and glued in every orfice. Labor to clean it would be close to 150 dollars in man hours. let alone the time it is down when it could be used for rent.
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    As long as its a quality AR like an RRA, Colt or Bushmaster... I'll take that.
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