Tactical anti vehicular/personnel shotgun. (woot!)

Tactical anti vehicular/personnel shotgun. (woot!)

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    Tactical anti vehicular/personnel shotgun. (woot!)

    So I was watching Swordfish *cough* again *cough* and I was thinking about that crazy scene where Travolta faces off against several SUVs with his handy M249 trunk gun. (if any of you do not know this scene, I order you to watch Swordfish...IMMEDIATELY!

    So it got me thinking about how you would make your handy trunk gun into an anti-vehicular weapon as well (that and I've had someone try to run over me before, which helps with the scenario area)

    I was thinking of taking a mossy shotgun, outfitting it with an image-enhancing scope, and fitting it out with slugs so it could also penetrate a windshield. What is your guys take on this, and what type of optics do you recommend for shotguns?

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    The only "optics" I would recommend for a defense shotgun would be a large-aperture ghost ring sight.

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    http://www.remington.com/products/fi...odel_SP-10.asp

    Here ya' go. 10g. Reliably stopping autos for going on 60 years (IIRC).

    Sights- XS night-sight front band, MMC's rear. Optics are okay, but no great advantage unless you strictly use magnification and slugs (and if you do that, the .375 H&H would actually be better-less deflection with a Barnes copper-solid).

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    For anti-vehicle, I'd like a .50 Beowulf. I think that would do the trick on anything without armor. You'll get more range than with a scatter gun, and those 12 round detachable box magazines should make reloading easier and less frequent.
    I think that any moderate rifle (.308, .30-06) would put an engine out of commission rather quickly. Windshields would do little to deter such a caliber. Semi-auto would be my choice as well.
    Short of something like say a 40MM HEDP, the vehicle probably won't stop immediately. It's important to stop it far away and get out of the path as soon as possible.
    Of course I'm just guessing and have never tried it.
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    a 12-gauge with slugs or a high power rifle (.308, .30-06, etc), either with red dot sight. Should prove to be a bad day for any car that's not up-armoured.

    As Daddy Warcrimes stated, however, it will NOT stop a car immediately. Even shooting out the tires won't stop it immediately, though that's the best bet if you need to get it stopped in a hurry as well as disable it.
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    Sticking with the 12ga idea:
    I am thinking about going the tacticool route on my Winnie HD shottie. I like the looks of the one you pictured there. That is similar to what I want to do, optics and all. I'm not thinking about trying to stop cars or anything along those lines, but I would think that two slugs through the windshield and a couple in the grille should all but stop the car where it is. Short of a grenade, there is little that will lock up the drive train of any car immediately.
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    I'd go with this-http://www.benelliusa.com/firearms/l...DesertCamo.jpg
    3 1/2's are almost as good as a 10 g. and a lot cheaper. I'd still use buckshot though. I think it'd go through a windshield. As for optics, I've never seen nothing wrong with a Bushnell Holosight.

    I must agree with the others, however, on a rifle being a little more productive for car stopping power. My choice is a .458 Lott in a Scout style bolt action.
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    A couple buddies of mine went to Designated Marksman school and part of the school was teaching them about shooting vehicles. For shooting through the windshield it was demonstrated that aim does not need to be adjusted. In addition, they took a running car (I believe it was an early 90s Celica with the hood open) and fired at the engine with a 9mm submachine gun, M4, M14....the car didn't stop running for about 20 minutes. I think the moral of the period of instruction was to shoot the driver, not the car.

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    So if you shoot a slug at the driver, the windshield will not deflect your shot away from the target? I never knew that before.
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    you'd be surprised what glass can do to a projectile of any kind. deflection, ricochet - these are real factors to a marksman.

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    For pistol rounds, you bet it will. For high-powered rifles this is probably less of a concern. Check out www.theboxotruth.com - they do the testing there.
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    We were shown an interesting video in one of my training courses... A group of shooters fired several hundred rounds of all sorts - handgun, rifle, shotgun, you name it - into a big sedan. Engine, tires, grill, everywhere. When they were done, one guy goes to the car, sweeps the glass off the seat, puts the key in the ignition, and drives that bad boy away...

    Anecdotal, certainly, but the lesson is clear. Don't count on ANYTHING you can easily carry on your person to stop a car... :)
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    I'm taking my SKS with the 30 round mag. Hell with the slugs. The 7.62 will eat a car for breakfast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SixBravo View Post
    Plus you can get 12 round mags for them...

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