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Enfield No.4 Mk 1/2

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    Enfield No.4 Mk 1/2

    I have an opportunity to purchase an Enfield No.4 MK 1 that was refurbished to a MK 1/2 after WWII.

    The price is $160 for the rifle and some .303 ball. From the pics it looks like it is in great shape.

    I don't know much about these rifles but I want to start a WWII warhorse collection and this seems to be a good one to start with since I can't afford a M1 right now.

    So if any of you Enfield guys could school me up on these I would appreciate it. Does this sound like a good deal?
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    If its in good shape $160 is a good price (especially if its a local sale so there's no shipping/transfer fee)

    I recently sold a 1955 No.4 Mk 2 (unissued, possibly unfired) for over $700 (not exactly a direct comparison, I know, but you get the idea)

    I say buy it. If you find you don't like it you should have no problem selling it for a profit.

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    I'd buy it too if in reasonable shape. I have a MkV Jungle carbine and also an 'Ishy' - but that's chambered .308.

    My first long range rifle shooting as a cadet in UK (Bisley) was using target MkIV's, with Parker Hale sights ... very accurate rifles. The std issue Mk IV was also my drill rifle.

    I have much affection for these guns - and even tho it is reckoned the Enfield bolt is not quite as tough as Mauser, IMO they are easily twice as fast to cycle.

    Be handy too for shooting it to be able to reload .303 ammo . altho mil surp is still out there - but usually corrosive.
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    That would be a great price up here. The Canadian Forces still issue the No.4 .303 to our Rangers up North as their service rifle.

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    Go for it. Its hard to find an Enfield of any make for less than 200 anymore.
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    Last time I checked J&G Guns had No.$ Mk 1's for around one hundred dollars. With shipping and trasnfer fee it would be just a little cheaper, but they have lots of them! Like P95 said reloading is probably your best bet for getting ammo. I've rarely seen surplus, and anything I find in the stores is horriblely expensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin View Post
    That would be a great price up here. The Canadian Forces still issue the No.4 .303 to our Rangers up North as their service rifle.
    Yup, they like them since they don't freeze up...

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    I think that range is still in use. I wonder if they might replace them with the AIA No.4 copies in 7.62 or even get some of the Indian ones made for 7.62?

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    Buy it.

    Yeah, you wanna get that one. I've got one is it's a great gun, nice fast bolt action.

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    For Ammo, Sportsmans Guide has it pretty reasonable, Wolf now makes the 303 ammo, in Brass cases too. $13.00 for a box of soft point, and $12.00 for fmj.

    Sportsmans Guide .303

    I used mine for hunting a lot, the box mag is nice for when driving a lot, or trying to load in the dark, the trigger pull is something to get used to, but not bad.

    edit to add: I got the sporterizer stock from Sportsmans guide also, it was synthetic, with cheek rest, and had new style sling mounts already on it.
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    Have you considered going with an Ishapore in .308? AIMS has them for $170. Not as much historical value, but if you want it to shoot, it will be a lot easier to find .308 on a consistent basis than .303.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin View Post
    I think that range is still in use. I wonder if they might replace them with the AIA No.4 copies in 7.62 or even get some of the Indian ones made for 7.62?

    Last I heard, was a long time back, the government dumped a ton of ammo on the Inuit government up there, so I don't think they'll go 7.62 NATO anytime soon.

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    I am a big fan of the No.4 mk1. I have one in beautiful shape thats all factory. I also rescued one from a hack and ended up with my all time favorite hunting gun{it's sporterized w/20' barrel}. The two I have now are the last two I have left out of several. Every single one would group 1.5" groups at 100 yards or better. They are great guns.
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    it's sporterized w/20' barrel
    Brian despite the (sometimes) groans at MkIV's being 'sporterized' - I bought mine in that state and I agree re being great. Apart from homeloads it shoots well with the Win JSP (180 'Power Point). It fits well and is easy to tote - I regard it as second choice deer rifle.

    BTW - the recoil pad is less for recoil - more for giving me a slight extension of length.


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    My friend picked a scoped Parker-Hale converted No.4 for around $50 in an estate sale. Will shoot a 2" group at 100m. Parker-Hale made very nice conversions!!

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