New toy.
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SAR-3
I needed another .223 to supliment my Mini-14 and can't afford an AR. ...
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June 22nd, 2007 10:07 PM
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New toy.
I bought myself a present for graduating from college last week.
SAR-3

I needed another .223 to supliment my Mini-14 and can't afford an AR. I picked this up at a gun show for $350. Fired 60 rounds through it today with no malfunctions. The mags are those converted Russian ones. They work fine as long as you don't load more than 10rounds. I had heard this was true with these mags. I could see when loading it, after the eleventh round, the cartirdge angle is thrown off, so I just loaded 10 at a time.
I am going to have to get some East German mags for her.(may have to mortgage the house for those) She shoots well and is more accurate than the Mini, which aint hard to do.
I shot some silhouette targets with it today at 50, 100, and 200. All were in the kill zone with some verticle stringing caused by me playing with the site picture. I flushed the site sometimes, then put it about half way down, then bottomed it out. Hits were still in the zone, so I'm confident I can hit with it if need be, even in a semi rapid fire situation. Not bad considering the AK sites, which are crude at best.
The trigger group on these is U.S. made I believe, and it is the nicest, light, crisp, tirgger I have ever felt on an Ak type rifle. A little slack, but not much.
She has the scope rail on the side, so I am planning on a weaver rail and Red Dot after I stock up on mags. The I can try to shoot some groups and see how accurate it really is. I shot about 1 1/2 at 50, beyond that any error was caused by me not being able to see the actual bullseye well. Still, center mass is repeatable out to 200 even with open sites and probably to 300, but our local range is only 200 yds so I'll have to test that some other time.
When you've got 'em by the balls, their hearts & minds will follow. Semper Fi.
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June 22nd, 2007 10:07 PM
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June 22nd, 2007 10:13 PM
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Beautiful! And a great price too!
You have to make the shot when fire is smoking, people are screaming, dogs are barking, kids are crying and sirens are coming.
Randy Cain.
Ego will kill you. Leave it at home.
Signed: Me!
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June 22nd, 2007 10:20 PM
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Pretty good find 
Never tried one but - knowing my Mini-14 - would not be at all surprised to find it better 
Don't think you mentioned your ammo choice - mil stuff? Or commercial factory?
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June 22nd, 2007 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by
P95Carry
Pretty good find
Never tried one but - knowing my Mini-14 - would not be at all surprised to find it better
Don't think you mentioned your ammo choice - mil stuff? Or commercial factory?
I used the cheap (well, used to be cheap, when I bought them a long time ago) Winchester USA stuff. 5.56mm, 55gr, fmj. The receiver is actually marked, 5.56, not .223.
When you've got 'em by the balls, their hearts & minds will follow. Semper Fi.
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June 22nd, 2007 10:41 PM
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Haha - ''used to be cheap'' - yeah hearing that a lot these days!!! I know of that ammo anyways - pretty well OK stuff.
Knowing AK's - the chamber is probably large enough tolerance to eat about anything
Expect Wolf/Barnaul etc would go fine too.
BTW - grad congrats in order too - in case I hadn't said elsewhere
Chris - P95
NRA Certified Instructor & NRA Life Member.
"To own a gun and assume that you are armed
is like owning a piano and assuming that you are a musician!."
http://www.rkba-2a.com/ - a portal for 2A links, articles and some videos.
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June 22nd, 2007 10:43 PM
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You have to make the shot when fire is smoking, people are screaming, dogs are barking, kids are crying and sirens are coming.
Randy Cain.
Ego will kill you. Leave it at home.
Signed: Me!
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June 22nd, 2007 10:48 PM
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That's a good looking weapon, Sarge.
"The pistol, learn it well, carry it always ..." ~ Jeff Cooper
"Dilgentia Vis Celeritas"
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June 22nd, 2007 11:00 PM
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Thanks OD.
Thanks Chris, Law school next, can't wait.
Miggy: I've been looking all week. I have also searched some forums and have read some poor reviews of those Bulgarian mags. If you or anyone else has used them and they are good, let me know and I'll be willing to try one and see. The concensus seems to be the German steel mags, like those on the auction arms link, are the best, and work flawlessly in the SAR-3.
They are pricey though. Century has them for just under $27.00 + shipping. I'll probably order from them, but there is a bigger gunshow in the next county over this weekend, so I'm hoping to find some there at a comparable price, and save myself some shipping charges. If not, I guess i'll have to pony up the cash. One thing about good mags is that I'll likely never wear them out, so once purchased I'm good.
When you've got 'em by the balls, their hearts & minds will follow. Semper Fi.
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June 23rd, 2007 09:34 PM
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Cool. I think you got a gun to replace your Mini.
Question -- does it mangle brass?
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June 24th, 2007 12:30 PM
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Real nice good working firearm. Congrats on the good price also.
Liberty Over Tyranny
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