Thinkin about an AR15. Need opinions

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  • Colt

    19 22.62%
  • Rock River Arms

    36 42.86%
  • Stag Arms

    17 20.24%
  • Wilson Combat

    4 4.76%
  • Armalite

    6 7.14%
  • Bushmaster

    24 28.57%
  • SigArms

    5 5.95%
  • LWRC (Old Leitner-Wise Rifle Company, new ownership)

    4 4.76%
  • Lewis

    2 2.38%
  • Doublestar

    0 0%
  • Les Baer

    3 3.57%
  • Patriot Ordnance

    3 3.57%
  • DPMS

    10 11.90%
  • Olympic Arms

    1 1.19%
  • Other- I'll state my option in my post.

    5 5.95%
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    Thinkin about an AR15. Need opinions

    Thinking about an AR15. Interested in Colt, RRA, Stag, LWRC, Wilson Combat and the new S&W M&P15 that are in my affordable ranges and the brands I seem to like most.

    Im not real fond of Bushmasters so I'm not really considering them. I'm sure Armalite is good but I'm not real fond of them either. Don't know much about DPMS Panther.

    I seem to like the Troy Industries fold down front and rear sights.

    I have been reading a lot about ARs and how they operate. I have read a lot about direct gas impingement vs. piston and I seem to lean towards piston since it doesn't get as dirty as fast, and also use about half the gas to operate the action. (about 12% for direct impingement, and about 5% for piston) {Guns & Ammo - Book of the AR-15 Picked up Monday @ WalMart}

    How many of the above mentioned in paragraph 1 are piston? I will be trying to read up but I figured I would just toss it out on here too to get some responses.

    Give your personal opinions about anything relative.

    The Poll is to find out what kind you would get if you had the opportunity today.
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    I am actually a big fan of JP Enterprises rifles. They made their name making competition AR's. I own one and the best group I've ever shot was about .2 inch with non-match grade ammo. They aren't very widely known among standard owners, but anyone who shoots 3-gun matches regularly should know them. They only down-side is that they are pricey, but so are Les Baer's rifles, and as a avid 3-gun shooter, I'd put them in the same category.

    Check them out: www.jprifles.com

    However, if you are limited by price, Rock River makes a good rifle. BTW, most of your major manufacturers don't make their own main components. They buy them from a company and add their own barrels and variations. So any of your major manufacturers will actually be pretty good.
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    If you can weed out the BS this was a good thread reagarding ARs

    http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...ad.php?t=28045

    I would go with Colt, RRA, Stag, or Bushmaster in that order.

    I currently have a Bushmaster, but their customer service kind of pissed my off recently (that's why they are last on my list but hey, I'm biased at the moment), my next will either be a Stag or a Colt, I just gotta shop around.

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    As you will see if you do a search on this subject....it can stir guys up. I say any major brand you can afford and has all the features you're looking for.....well, that's the one for you.

    I own three Bushmasters and have a Rock River on the way. Haven't had a single complaint with my Bushy's....don't expect to have any issues with my R.R. Know several guys with Colts....they really like theirs.

    I think I've mentioned elsewhere...it's kinda like pickup trucks. You got guys that swear by Ford or Chev or Dodge...etc...etc. It's all on what you like and will be happy with.

    Not a great answer....but buy the best one you can afford!

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    I like my Rock River Elite CAR A4.....nice rifle. Most will agree that Colt is pretty much the top pick but you are gonna pay for that puppy. I found the $400 I saved bought my Aimpoint. Sweet.

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    So far I have seen Bushmaster, Colt and stag work well. No first hand knowledge of the other brands.
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    Hmm.. no one so far knows about the gas systems on the first paragraph.. Having a piston is an important part of the decision to me. I know that LWRC uses a piston..... thats about it so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by floridaguy911 View Post
    Hmm.. no one so far knows about the gas systems on the first paragraph.. Having a piston is an important part of the decision to me. I know that LWRC uses a piston..... thats about it so far.
    Google the manufacturer+gas+piston.

    In two minutes I learned that Colt is not gas piston and Bushmaster is.
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    I'm a Colt guy and believe that gas piston ARs are a solution in search of a problem.

    Really, the DI works pretty dam well and it keeps the rifle light and simple. I've gone close to 800 rounds in my 6920 without cleaning and I can't envision ever really having to shoot that much "for real".

    But, if you really want a piston gun then your choices are somewhat limited:

    POF
    Bushmaster
    DSA Gas Trap ( I think this is a POF)
    LWRC
    Colt 1020 (someday maybe)
    HK416 Doubt it, but it does exist

    Seriously, if you want a piston gun, I'd take a look at either the SIG556 or the ROBARM XCR.

    IMHO both are a little heavy for a 5.56 carbine, but they're piston driven.

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    I love my S&W m&p15. Plus it has a lifetime warranity.
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    My next AR is going to be made by Sabre Defence http://www.sabredefence.com/

    Sabre Defence makes superb weapons, better than any listed in the poll!

    As far as the piston issue, it's a non issue as far as I'm concerned. Been carrying M16's and AR15's since 1982 and have never had one have a issue that the gas piston would have fixed.

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    If you are leaning towards a piston upper based solely on what you have read then I would suggest that you try both before you buy if at all possible. The piston uppers are great and work very well, but I trust my life to a DI uppper and don't think twice about it. They aren't nearly as dirty or as unreliable as the piston upper manufacturers would have you believe. just my opinion

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    Thumbs up

    I voted for a Bushmaster

    I am 100% satisfied with mine

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    For DI, I like Bushmaster, Stag, and RRA.

    For piston, POF would probably be your best bet from what I have read, but I have little experience with them. Word is that the Bushmaster piston upper is made by POF.

    I agree with Chuck R and raysheen, in that I think DI works well and don't really see the need for piston.
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