Rifles in the Wild

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    I was reading a thread in the scenarios section and it got me to thinking... What kind of weapon may be carried openly (rifle preferably) in the woods such as a state forest while hiking? Is there such an animal? You would have to be a licenced hunter with tag for whatever it is that is in season at that time wouldn't you? And following all of the rest of the laws about season / hunting that apply as well I would assume? What can anyone say about this? I figure in some places that you just simply don't run into other people, but in some areas here in WV you probably won't, but if you stumble into someone's pot area you are going to get shot at more than likely, and having a pistol in a long gun fight sucks.

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    Just FYI that now many of the pot growers are planting trip trigger pipe bombs and also digging covered holes with vertical sharpened spikes at the bottom.
    You don't want to run into either one of those no matter what type of firearm you're carrying. Be careful out there.
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    +1 Be careful. I think razor blades at eye level, punji pits, trip wires, pipe bombs etc.. were all recently mentioned in something I saw on the History channel about pot growers in KY.

    Check your local and state laws - it'll be in there.

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    I saw that on the history channel too. it don't sound good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladin132 View Post
    I was reading a thread in the scenarios section and it got me to thinking... What kind of weapon may be carried openly (rifle preferably) in the woods such as a state forest while hiking? Is there such an animal? You would have to be a licenced hunter with tag for whatever it is that is in season at that time wouldn't you? And following all of the rest of the laws about season / hunting that apply as well I would assume? What can anyone say about this? I figure in some places that you just simply don't run into other people, but in some areas here in WV you probably won't, but if you stumble into someone's pot area you are going to get shot at more than likely, and having a pistol in a long gun fight sucks.

    Real simple, look up the laws for your state or the state you are visiting for what is required when carrying any firearm.

    Here in Oregon, if it is legal to possess, it is legal to be carried openly in our forestsl. Other states are different.
    I will support gun control when you can guarantee all guns are removed from this planet. That includes military and law enforcement. When you can accomplish that, then I will be the last person to lay down my gun. Then I will carry the weapon that replaces the gun.

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    You have to have a Hunting License and tag if carrying a rifle in the woods during big game seasons, other wise you don't. It just makes sence to have a hunting License at all times just in case you need food. Here in Washington you can buy either a small game or a large game or both. The money from the License purchase goes toward the wild life so buying it helps preserve the hunting.

    There seperate seasons for Bowhunting ,Blackpowder and general firarms. You are not allowed to have a regular centerfire rifle during Bow season or Blackpowder so it can get a little convoluted.

    I tend to stay out of the woods during Big Game seasons unless I am hunting. I carry my pistol everwhere and at all times. It is easier to just take the pistol while fishing then to try and pack a rifle. If I go to the back country on an overnight hike or camping trip then I carry my 44Mag Leveraction or one of my Winchester Leveractions in 30-30 or 25-35. They are lighter and easier to carry then my MAK91 or my M44.

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    I have looked online and I simply can't find anything to tell me what I can or can't do. I know I can call the park folks or whatever, I just try not to contact authority asking questions about packing a weapon - too many wierdos out there already lol.

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    After digging around on the WV state parks web site, this is the only thing I could find:
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    Uncased firearms, uncased bows and uncased arrows are prohibited in state parks, state forests, and state wildlife management areas, and on state trails, except:

    a.
    When the area is open for hunting (hunting is prohibited in state parks) or when a registered park or forest guest has the written permission of the area superintendent to carry them in a case from his or her lodge room, cabin or campsite to open hunting areas, or to an officially designated rifle, pistol, skeet, trap, target or shooting range;

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    Area superintendents may authorize their use in historical reenactments and plays; and

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    The Chief of Parks and Recreation, Division of Natural Resources, may authorize their use for a limited period in conjunction with recreational and arts and crafts programs.

    Doesn't say anything about loaded or unloaded. I wonder if a fanny pack would qualify as a "case" making it possible to carry a handgun. Having to case a long gun would seem to make carrying one a practical impossibility. I think your only option may be to call and get an official opinion.

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    WV.Gov should have some links that will help you out...

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    I haven't found anything that I can understand enough to base a decision on, so I think I will call the DNR folks out at the lake and ask them, and maybe the State Police as well. Thanks folks.

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    Let us know what you find out. It is my understanding that unless hunting season and you have a hunting license you can't have a gun in the woods. Of course you can concealed carry with a concealed carry permit, even during bow season but it has to be concealed (duh). Where in WV are you? I'm in Summersville area.

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    Huntington area. I'll post when I find out what the regs say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter View Post
    Just FYI that now many of the pot growers are planting trip trigger pipe bombs and also digging covered holes with vertical sharpened spikes at the bottom.
    You don't want to run into either one of those no matter what type of firearm you're carrying. Be careful out there.
    i wonder if moonshiners would have done the same thing back in the days of alcohol prohibition? but I guess we'll never learn a lesson from history that prohibition doesn't work I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duisburg View Post
    i wonder if moonshiners would have done the same thing back in the days of alcohol prohibition? but I guess we'll never learn a lesson from history that prohibition doesn't work I guess.
    They did. Dope isn't quite as socially accepted as "likker" was or is, so its rather a false analogy. While I could see legalizing, it would have to go along with some seriously abbreviated social benefits for carriers of the "dope-card", which I doubt the socialists in Congress would go for.

    Regarding parks: if you are hiking/camping in "under developed" facilities, it would not be unreasonableto suggest a high-cap handgun, with several reloads. You don't need range so much as situational awareness, and quantity if that fails you. I am not a lawyer/your mileage may vary/you are responsible for your own actions/etc./etc..

    I grew up in the mountains. There's freaks in them thar' hills. Make decisions appropriately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob72 View Post

    I grew up in the mountains. There's freaks in them thar' hills. Make decisions appropriately.

    +1 on that. I never go into the woods without some kind of arms. Ran into a few freaks myself.
    I will support gun control when you can guarantee all guns are removed from this planet. That includes military and law enforcement. When you can accomplish that, then I will be the last person to lay down my gun. Then I will carry the weapon that replaces the gun.

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