.223 BBL Bolt Action?

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    .223 BBL Bolt Action?

    Originally I was going to start a new project on a Baretta Storm.. Well before that I was curious about a .223 in bolt action. Couldn't find one, ANYWHERE. My dad found some in a matter of minutes today in a phone conversation that fit the price and some specifications. However, not all of the specs were made. Hopefully someone here can help me.

    My goal:

    1) .223/.308 in bolt action
    2) Bull Barrel
    3) 16''-18'' Barrel (20 if there's no other way)
    4) Between $300-$599

    Anything out there?

    Edit: Considering the stipulations, some have suggested a .308 instead. Same options, any advice?
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    Seriously, I doubt that you will find a barrel shorter than 22" for the .223 unless it is a custom length.
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    Did you check into the Howa Tactical? It's just a bit over your stated budget but it has everything else. I am guessing that 22" barrel is going to be on the short side - 24" may be the norm. Just a guess. Either way, you should have a lot of fun tuning a .223 bolt action into a tack driver!
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    My Savage bolt action bull barrel .223 is a tack driver.
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    Swifty - what Savage model do you have?

    Mercalf - check these:

    Savage Arms Model 12 Long Range Precision Varminter

    Savage Arms Model 12 Varminter Low Profile

    Savage Arms 12 Series Varmint Model 12FV

    These all have a 26" barrel :(
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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper58 View Post
    Swifty - what Savage model do you have?

    Mercalf - check these:

    Savage Arms Model 12 Long Range Precision Varminter

    Savage Arms Model 12 Varminter Low Profile

    Savage Arms 12 Series Varmint Model 12FV

    These all have a 26" barrel :(
    I have the last one you listed. They are hard to beat for the price!
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    Quote Originally Posted by swiftyjuan View Post
    My Savage bolt action bull barrel .223 is a tack driver.
    From what I've seen, just about every Savage bolt action rifle is a tack driver.
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    I've got a Savage 12FLV and it's pretty darned accurate. Several of the 12 series have "bull" barrels, designed for target or varmint shooting. Keep in mind that such shooting typically warrants longer barrels, so you're highly unlikely (with any model of gun) to find a factory supplied 16" variant in a bull barrel. If a project, you could find a decent used Savage 10, 11 or 12 series rifle, then either rebarrel or cut it down, though this will alter the balance of course.

    Options from the factory are limited, with all your specs. Ones that come close that I know of are: CZ 527 Carbine .223, Ruger M77 Compact .223, Steyr Scout (not in price range).
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    I have a sako tikka .223 bolt action that is great. Probably the best shooting rifle I currently own. Rifle twist is different from AR15 and mini14s so you may have to experiment with different bullet weights to get the best accuracy out of it.

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    I shoot a CZ 527 LUX, it is probably the best faactory rifle that I have shot at a decent price. (right behind my Sako)
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    I have a Remington 700 VLS in .223 that shoots terrific groups. Consider it for sure. Make sure you save plenty of money for good glass!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercalf View Post
    Originally I was going to start a new project on a Baretta Storm.. Well before that I was curious about a .223 in bolt action. Couldn't find one, ANYWHERE. My dad found some in a matter of minutes today in a phone conversation that fit the price and some specifications. However, not all of the specs were made. Hopefully someone here can help me.

    My goal:

    1) .223 in bolt action
    2) Bull Barrel
    3) 16''-18'' Barrel (20 if there's no other way)
    4) Between $300-$599

    Anything out there?
    Paper-punching only, or emergency utility/hunting as well?

    Unless you have an AR and a good stock of TAP or similar, a .308 will serve better, for multiple applications, within urban rifle range.

    Bulls are a pain in the butt to carry, and not necessary in the 200-300yard range.

    18" is both more than legal and pretty much the optimal choice for the .308. .223 might need a bit more barrel, but probably not- the DMRs are 20", IIRC. If you can't find a factory barrel at 18", you can cut it yourself, and put an 11 degree crown on it yourself with cutters from Brownells- about $75 for a set.

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    I like the rifles posted, but again - the barrel length is the top priority. This rifle will NOT be used for hunting. I have a .300 WBY that will be used for hunting.

    I didn't really consider the .308 originally, however if that's the only way to go for a compact rifle then that might have to due. The rifle will be meant for precision shooting with cheap/available ammo. Which ruled out the .300 mags and other cals. A friend of mine suggested the .223 WSM - anyone hear about that?

    I'll edit my original post to include this info, but what would you suggest for the .308? Same price range etc.
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    Just not a big fan of any of the "short magnums". Still remains to be seen if they have longevity. Think that new and improved isn't always better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercalf View Post
    I like the rifles posted, but again - the barrel length is the top priority. This rifle will NOT be used for hunting. I have a .300 WBY that will be used for hunting.

    I didn't really consider the .308 originally, however if that's the only way to go for a compact rifle then that might have to due. The rifle will be meant for precision shooting with cheap/available ammo. Which ruled out the .300 mags and other cals. A friend of mine suggested the .223 WSM - anyone hear about that?

    I'll edit my original post to include this info, but what would you suggest for the .308? Same price range etc.
    Savage 110, in either .308 or .223. Given the current state of affairs, again I would suggest .308 for its availability of ammo.

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