Ermmmm..... AR what?

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    Ermmmm..... AR what?

    I have been reading all the threads about building an AR15. All of what I have read has just confused me to a point where I simply stopped looking anymore.

    I am interested in one myself, but I have absolutely no intentions of competition shooting or hunting of any kind.

    I would like a home defense rifle only.


    All I know is that an AR rifle can be built out of pieces from multiple sources.

    I will have to do some more reading to figure out just which pieces do what and what maker produces a certain type of this n that for their AR's.

    All I want is reliability and enough accuracy for home defense. Tacticool isnt necessary.

    If I want to stay well under the $1000 mark, what makers will I be looking into? What do I want in a lower? Upper? Which barrel for home defense? Chromed or not chromed? Do I want/need a carry handle? Do I want .223 or 5.56?

    I have seen complete AR's in Streichers magazine for under $900. One was a DPMS and another was S&W, which was a little more than $900.

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    Bushmaster 16" Shorty Carbines are reasonably priced and I find it a nice size for HD.
    Got mine for $820 here Jackson Gun & Ammo - Store

    I bought local, because its a PITA to get things shipped to NY.

    But that should give you an idea on pricing

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    Unless you want to build for the sake of building, I suggest you get a complete rifle for the first go around.
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    Or buy it in separate upper and lower halves (cheaper that way), but otherwise I agree with SIXTO.


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    Shop around on the DPMS website.
    Click Here To Go There

    Check out their offerings. They have some very basic No Frills offerings.

    Select Rifles - then your desired caliber - that will show you what they have - click on those rifles and that will give the specs.

    Clicking on: Build Me This Rifle will give you the price.

    You should be able to find at least one or two in the mid to high $700 range.
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    Whether you piece it together or buy whole, read this. Great info for newbs, and probably most AR people!

    So you want to buy an AR-15, huh? - Police Forums & Law Enforcement Forums @ Officer.com

    Cliff notes on what to look for;

    1- Gov't profile
    2- Chrome lined chamber and bore
    3- 5.56 NATO chamber
    4- 1/7 twist
    5- Parkerizing under front sight base
    6- M4 feed ramps
    7- Magnetic particle tested

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    I'm not 100% sold on that link, Rusty. What does the average guy need a govt profile barrel for? Even chrome lining is probably not that important to a guy who will fire a few hundred rounds over the life of the rifle... Don't get me wrong, most of these are desireable features, to be sure, but are they "deal breakers" for a rifle that will see vastly more time in a safe than it does on the range? All these things come with an associated cost...
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    Quote Originally Posted by OPFOR View Post
    I'm not 100% sold on that link, Rusty. What does the average guy need a govt profile barrel for? Even chrome lining is probably not that important to a guy who will fire a few hundred rounds over the life of the rifle... Don't get me wrong, most of these are desireable features, to be sure, but are they "deal breakers" for a rifle that will see vastly more time in a safe than it does on the range? All these things come with an associated cost...
    I agree. I've read that post over and over... IMO it is aimed at someone going class III, and in addition, it assumes that government specs are the best available options.

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    Check out Stag, good value for the money.
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    I built my AR for basically the same thing you are wanting one for, basically a SHTF home defense rifle. Mine is a 16" light weight upper with a chrome lined barrel on a DPMS lower. I got my fully assembled upper along with the parts kit with all the parts I needed from Del-Ton.com. That included the stock and a stock wrench which made putting the stock on easier. But it's not neccesary. I got my lower from a local gun show but you can get them from Buds Gun Shop, Guns for Sale for $100 plus FFL fees. The total cost of my build was just about $700. I used a write up I found on AR15.com: AR15.COM :: Forums :: Assemble your own LOWER, UPPER, FREE FLOAT, TRIGGER, GAS BLOCK - Step by step instructions! using no special tools. All you really need is a punch set(I got mine from Harbor Freight for a few bucks) and a set of vice grips(which I also got from harbor freight).

    Using that guide you can have your AR-15 together in no time.

    AR-15's are really easy to assemble. Don't let all the parts intimidate you. You can do it! I hope this all helps and doesn't confuse you. Feel free to PM me if you'd like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OPFOR View Post
    I'm not 100% sold on that link, Rusty. What does the average guy need a govt profile barrel for? Even chrome lining is probably not that important to a guy who will fire a few hundred rounds over the life of the rifle... Don't get me wrong, most of these are desireable features, to be sure, but are they "deal breakers" for a rifle that will see vastly more time in a safe than it does on the range? All these things come with an associated cost...
    I agree with OPFOR as well. Many of the features are not really needed for a home defense/ non hard combat situation. Check out here CDNN Sports, Inc. they did have bargin bin AR's for under $600 dollars.
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    Any brand will serve you well.

    I'd suggest an A2 upper with a 16" barrel.

    Light barrel, heavy barrel, stepped barrel will all be sufficient.
    Chrome lined is nice. stainless is nicer. Neither is required here.

    A1 / A2 / telescoping shoulder stock based on what fits you.

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    CMMG bargain bin sounds like what you want. You'd still have money left over for practice ammo.

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    Cool

    I'll be getting my first one very soon and like this one since it's basically what I'd be putting together if I was making one myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocky View Post
    I agree with OPFOR as well. Many of the features are not really needed for a home defense/ non hard combat situation. Check out here CDNN Sports, Inc. they did have bargin bin AR's for under $600 dollars.
    Bargain Bin appears to be over.
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