The DC HD Shotgun thread!
This is a discussion on The DC HD Shotgun thread! within the Defensive Rifles & Shotgun Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by Seraph
Among pump shotguns, I personally prefer the Mossberg 500/590 design, mainly for the layout of the controls. I have one of ...
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June 25th, 2008 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Among pump shotguns, I personally prefer the Mossberg 500/590 design, mainly for the layout of the controls. I have one of these, on which I will soon put a youth-length stock, maybe some ghost ring sights, and call it done:
I'm not really much on shotguns, myself, but recent activity in our Custom Shop has infected me with a curious lust for a Saiga 12. I don't have a photo to post tonight, but some of these things look like props from
Fifth Element.
This style seems like perfect HD weapon. I don't understand why anyone wants a rear stock when the furthest range you'd probably be shooting is 20 feet?
Exactly what model is this?
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June 25th, 2008 07:54 PM
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that's the model i have; i added a stock to mine on the advice of others here. it's the breacher model. it's harder to aim with the pistol grip only; the stock makes aiming a whole lot more accurate, and cuts the recoil way down. pistol grips are only cool in the movies.
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June 25th, 2008 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by
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This style seems like perfect HD weapon. I don't understand why anyone wants a rear stock when the furthest range you'd probably be shooting is 20 feet?
Exactly what model is this?
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You never know what you might have to do, and there's no downside to having a stock, unless you're trying to put your shotgun in a suitcase, or hide it under a trench coat. If I have to do any of that, I guess I would just swap the pistol grip back on.
The shotgun in the photo is the Mossberg 500A Cruiser Tactical.
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June 26th, 2008 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by
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... unless you're trying to put your shotgun in a suitcase, or hide it under a trench coat. If I have to do any of that, I guess I would just swap the pistol grip back on...
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June 26th, 2008 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by
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whoa!
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June 26th, 2008 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by
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whoa!
No kidding!! I wonder how much that rig weighs fully loaded. Lol.
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June 27th, 2008 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by
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No kidding!! I wonder how much that rig weighs fully loaded. Lol.
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June 27th, 2008 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by
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I picked up my new Mossberg 590 with ghost sights today. Changed out the forend for a Surefire 623FA.
Nice choice wht.
Seraph, do you know if there is a youth stock option for the 590 model gun?
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June 27th, 2008 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by
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that's the model i have; i added a stock to mine on the advice of others here. it's the breacher model. it's harder to aim with the pistol grip only; the stock makes aiming a whole lot more accurate, and cuts the recoil way down. pistol grips are only cool in the movies.

In reference to the Mossberg 500A Cruiser Tactical...
Really? I don't have a lot of trouble with mine. Maybe Brownie or FlagFlyFish will chime in and back me up. I have that exact model and shoot skeet with it. From the relaxed position to hitting the clay is usually around half a second - 3/4 second from the throw (either of you, if I'm giving myself too much credit then lemme know - I'd kinda like to get a solid time down). Now I'll never go pro with it and I won't hit with quite the same accuracy as some of the other guys but I'm fast out of the gate and hit with decent regularity on a clay. Regardless, that little bead sight on the end is all you need for a follow-up with a missed first shot. I've even shot skeet using a two-handed pistol style grip on that rig.
Now I can also push 100+ rounds at a time with this thing. I've got meaty mitts and my wrists never complain. The mileage will vary according to the user. Sure the pistol grip is cool but I only know a few guys who can shoot it with the same gusto. Really, to make it completely practical shotgun, I would suggest a pistol-grip or normal buttstock... Again, whatever the end user prefers. As I said in my post, I'm planning to eventually pick up one of those Knoxx Tacticals. I've got about 1200 rounds through mine though and it never complains - even during the hottest sessions.
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June 27th, 2008 11:16 PM
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I'm not a fan of the pistol grip shotguns and think they are a horrible idea for most people, but one can shoot them very accurately with a little practice.
I agree with SixBravo's post 100%.
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June 28th, 2008 09:03 AM
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The buttstock adds extra length, which would (I think) cause some restriction in the tight confines of a hallway or other closed area. The Japanese Samurai used to carry two swords (long and short) just for this reason. So it would seem natural that in a closed-in HD situation, one would want a shorter weapon????
Someone please explain the seeming preference for buttstock in HD shottie.
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June 28th, 2008 09:11 AM
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June 28th, 2008 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by
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In reference to the Mossberg 500A Cruiser Tactical...
Really? I don't have a lot of trouble with mine. Maybe Brownie or FlagFlyFish will chime in and back me up. I have that exact model and shoot skeet with it. From the relaxed position to hitting the clay is usually around half a second - 3/4 second from the throw (either of you, if I'm giving myself too much credit then lemme know - I'd kinda like to get a solid time down). Now I'll never go pro with it and I won't hit with quite the same accuracy as some of the other guys but I'm fast out of the gate and hit with decent regularity on a clay. Regardless, that little bead sight on the end is all you need for a follow-up with a missed first shot. I've even shot skeet using a two-handed pistol style grip on that rig.
Now I can also push 100+ rounds at a time with this thing. I've got meaty mitts and my wrists never complain. The mileage will vary according to the user. Sure the pistol grip is cool but I only know a few guys who can shoot it with the same gusto. Really, to make it completely practical shotgun, I would suggest a pistol-grip or normal buttstock... Again, whatever the end user prefers. As I said in my post, I'm planning to eventually pick up one of those Knoxx Tacticals. I've got about 1200 rounds through mine though and it never complains - even during the hottest sessions.
I gotta say, Six is pretty good with that little shotgun. I personally don't usually like a pistol grip on a shotgun, as it was designed to be a shoulder fired weapon, but I can see the advantages of it in a CQ situation.
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June 28th, 2008 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Seraph, do you know if there is a youth stock option for the 590 model gun?
Speedfeed part# 0357 is the black synthetic Youth stock, which comes with a ribbed fore end. This is the one I just put on my 500 a couple of days ago, and the same part# is also for the 590.
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June 28th, 2008 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by
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The buttstock adds extra length, which would (I think) cause some restriction in the tight confines of a hallway or other closed area... Someone please explain the seeming preference for buttstock in HD shottie.
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The dimension that matters, when turning corners indoors, is the distance between the firing hand and the muzzle. Unless you're holding your shotgun out in front of yourself by the recoil pad, the buttstock won't add any effective length at all, hence no downside, hence general preference.
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