Range Report -- Remington 870P SBS 14" (shotgun)

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    Nice little beast, but....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
    ^^ Both. The new owner pays the transfer tax of $200, and a Class 3 FFL needs to do the transferring. At least in Oregon, I also need to get a "kiss" from the county Sheriff, indicating he's aware I'm doing this and has no issues with it. Then, if I were to sell it, the new owner would pay yet another $200 for a new stamp, and the transfer would be done through a Class 3 FFL. All for what are essentially the same checks that have been done to get the CHL. Wonderful, eh?
    As disgusting and ridiculously restrictive as our gun laws are I guess they are better than the UK's or Australia's...what is the big deal about 4"? Does that make it uber-concealable or something? I just don't get the rationale for this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chiboxer View Post
    what is the big deal about 4"? Does that make it uber-concealable or something? I just don't get the rationale for this one.
    Many don't. The rationale is as I've said: maneuverability. Until you've tried to head 'round a corner or obstruction with another 4" lopped off, reserve judgment. As some have suggested, that maneuverability buys time. In this case, it handles much like a carbine rifle does as compared to its full-sized counterpart. Anyway. It has its place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
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    You guys are right, paying that extra money, going through hoops like finger printing and CLEO signature is pure BS for 4 inches.














    That's why I went with 12"
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    Tax

    If I may ask, did you do the paperwork as an individual, a Trust, or as a corporation?

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    Individual. New pair of socks included.
    Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it.
    Thoughts: Justifiable self defense (A.O.J.).
    Explain: How does disarming victims reduce the number of victims?
    Reason over Force: The Gun is Civilization (Marko Kloos).
    NRA, GOA, OFF, ACLDN.

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    I also did it as an individual. I was going to do the trust, but I have seen so many people say that the Quicken Willmaker route is untested and may not hold up in court. So I didn't risk it.
    I like my solvent and my lubricant for my guns to rhyme, so I use Gasoline and Vasoline.


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    We use 14" 870s at work. Synthetic standard stocks and Surefire forearms (on some of them, anyhow) Bead sights. Simple and reliable; I like them a lot. Ours only take 4 in the magazine, however...

    We also carry them on an empty chamber, on safe, with the trigger pulled. Anyone else roll this way?

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    Willmaker has delivered excellent results. Willmaker 08 will tailor the trust documentation to your particular state.

    I have a couple of stamps "in the mail" so to speak

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    I guess one thing that makes me bang my head against the wall is you can have a 16" rifle but a shotty has to be a minimum 18"
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    ^^ You can actually have any length gun. You're just forced to jump through silly hoops to prove yourself "worthy" to the revenuers at the turnstyle.
    Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it.
    Thoughts: Justifiable self defense (A.O.J.).
    Explain: How does disarming victims reduce the number of victims?
    Reason over Force: The Gun is Civilization (Marko Kloos).
    NRA, GOA, OFF, ACLDN.

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    Yeah going through the "short" thing now. Easiest way to get a short barrel AR is to build it as a pistol (virgin receiver, no butstock, and no forward pistol grip - the receiver extension tube is okay to have though). That exempts you from all length requirements. 5"bbl, 24" bbl, whatever...

    A new reciever is about 6 months quicker and $100 cheaper than going the "Short Barrel Rifle" approach through ATF/NFA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AgentX View Post
    We also carry them on an empty chamber, on safe, with the trigger pulled. Anyone else roll this way?
    I keep my bedroom shotgun like this, but it's not an SBS.

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