Concerns with using a rifle for home defense

Concerns with using a rifle for home defense

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    Concerns with using a rifle for home defense

    My 9 is my default defense weapon at home. it's either on my side or my night stand. if 16 rounds of HP don't do the trick, i don't know what will, but in the event, my backup is my beloved Kalashnikov - but with an issue...

    A round from my AK will not only go through an intruder/evil doer, but will also go through 4-6 walls and everything in between. given the close proximity of the homes out here, i run the risk of my rounds landing on other peoples home in the event that i ever have to use it.

    This is the same if i used any other rifle i have aside from my .22.

    While it's a chance i will take to defend my home and my wife, it's
    not something i hope i ever have to do.


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    This is a contentious subject that comes up often here. If you use the search function you will probably find a lot of threads about it.

    I'm in the penetration is king school of thought - but I still think most rifle calibers are too much risk to neighbors. A pistol caliber carbine is my top choice, and on my long list of things to buy before the elections.
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    Like a hi-point? my friend has one. it's not a saturday night special, but i am sure it will work.

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    Considering the possibility of over penetration from a rifle I prefer a 12ga shotgun loaded with #4 buck for a back-up to my 1911.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 762 View Post
    Like a hi-point? my friend has one. it's not a saturday night special, but i am sure it will work.
    Hi-points are ugly IMO but work. CX4 Storm, 9mm AR are good options too.

    My preferred HD Longgun is my Shotgun, but I like the idea of a carbine for capacity and careful shots.
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    shotgun is another option i am considering. I personally do not like shooting them at all, but for home defense and max effect, i may get one and just keep it in my closet.

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    Rifle rounds are a bit much in home defense. I personally feel a large pistol caliber sometimes is dangerous, depending on the thickness of your walls. I live in a one story brick house, so with the exception of firing through a window, a pistol caliber is just fine.

    Shotguns still rule for home defense.

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    My primary weapon is a SAXD .45acp, back up is a 12 GA loaded with birdshot (this load for HD is a matter of controversy in and of itself, but I use it do to the pesky little rattle snake issue we have here in the SW), and my last resort is my Kalashnikov.

    As mentioned already in this thread, a rifle for HD is a hotly debated topic, mostly due to penetration issues.

    I personally think that not having a combat rifle available is foolish. 2A is about keeping the government in check; this requires arms similar to what the government uses.

    From a HD standpoint, there have been way too many civil unrest situations where I would prefer a rifle over a sidearm. American history is riddled with such situations, i.e.: The Detroit Riot of 1967, The Tulsa, Oklahoma Race Riot of 1921, The Los Angeles riots of 1992, etc.

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    My AK (Lola) was adopted sooner due to the looming threats post November. In the event that the messiah looses, i want to be ready for riots and unrest.

    I will have to check a shotty out sometime.

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    I have my .45's for basic HD. I also have a 30-30 and my AR-15 for 'reaching out and touching someone'...but not for use inside the home.

    For additional HD I keep my double barrel, 12ga coach gun...00buck is my solution for 'groups' of uninvited guests.


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    A good shotty for HD trumps a rifle #1 00 buck 2 3/4" has 9 pellets,chances of over penetration with collateral damage very minimal,better chance of hitting the target in a high stress situation,
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    Quote Originally Posted by AMH View Post
    As mentioned already in this thread, a rifle for HD is a hotly debated topic, mostly due to penetration issues.

    I personally think that not having a combat rifle available is foolish. 2A is about keeping the government in check; this requires arms similar to what the government uses.

    From a HD standpoint, there have been way too many civil unrest situations where I would prefer a rifle over a sidearm. American history is riddled with such situations, i.e.: The Detroit Riot of 1967, The Tulsa, Oklahoma Race Riot of 1921, The Los Angeles riots of 1992, etc.
    Ahh yes you speak of riot situations. A rifle would be a bit more acceptable there - I think most here are taking middle of the night type scenarios. Agreed that every home needs a good combat rifle. For overnight protection I prefer something with less potential for collateral damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matiki View Post
    This is a contentious subject that comes up often here. If you use the search function you will probably find a lot of threads about it.
    That he would. Anyway, there's a reason 5.56 caliber rifles are becoming more commonly used as indoors weapons. They are much, much less likely (using proper ammo) to over-penetrate than pistol and shotgun ammo.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BAC View Post
    That he would. Anyway, there's a reason 5.56 caliber rifles are becoming more commonly used as indoors weapons. They are much, much less likely (using proper ammo) to over-penetrate than pistol and shotgun ammo.


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    This could not be more true, its a matter of physics.

    Anyway, I think a PCC is an ideal HD weapon but a 5.56 carbine can fill two roles as well.
    I've been working on finding the right PCC for about a year now, and have come to the conclusion I will have to build my own to get what I want.
    I also feel that no home arsenal is complete without a good handy shotgun, such as a pump or coach gun.
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    My primary HD weapon is a M1 Carbine. Which I consider to be a pistol caliber carbine.

    The reason I went with the M1 Carbine over a shotgun is for the simple reason that my wife likes to shoot the carbine.

    As far as penetration is concerned I would rather over penetrate than under penetrate
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