A 30-30 ?
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In the meantime, I am ...
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October 27th, 2008 02:05 PM
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A 30-30 ?
I am planning to get shotgun in the next few months 870 or 500 depending on what I can find.
In the meantime, I am thinking of promoting one of my long guns to HD duty.
The choice are an UZI carbine in 9mm (semi-auto)
or a Winchester 1866 commemorative in 30-30.
I live in a semi-rural area, on an almost 5 acre lot, the closest house is a couple thousand feet away.
Of course, if I had to go in front of a jury, the 30-30 would probably look better than an "assault machine-gun" but I am not sure I would really care at that point.
Your feedback is appreciated, as usual !!!
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October 27th, 2008 02:24 PM
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I kept one for years.It was my deer gun and my self defense gun also.Out to 150 yards they are great,plus you can reload them as you shoot to keep it topped off.I kept mine in a gun rack at home along with a bandolier of 25 shells loaded and ready to go.All I had to do was grab the gun and bandolier and I was set.That old gun has put down a lot of deer,but now I've retired it to the safe.Seems like I'm always short of money so now I have a sks for defense and a 12ga auto,plus a glock g-19,thats my whole arsenal,along with enough ammo to last awhile.sj
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October 27th, 2008 02:38 PM
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I'd go with the 30-30. While the 9mm Uzi will give you superior volume of rounds, the 30-30 gives you the advantage of longer distance shots in a SHTF situation.
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October 27th, 2008 02:38 PM
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I like a 30-30.
Not so much as a hunting rifle but more as a quick point and shoot close quarter gun, that truly packs a wallop, and yet has very little recoil.
For that reason, I keep a custom one in my motorhome, along with about 100 rounds of ammo.
Figure if the world goes haywire, while I’m away from home, at least I’ll have a rifle, as well as my Glock with me.
The 30-30 would also be handy if while remote camping we are attacked by some sort of wild beast, and for that reason, I keep it just inside the door, when we are out in the backcountry.
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October 27th, 2008 03:37 PM
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October 27th, 2008 04:12 PM
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Just picked up a mint pre .64 for two bills.
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October 27th, 2008 05:55 PM
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Another vote for the .30-30.....
I own a bunch of them & always carry one around the farm. i even have a 'Tacti-cool' one that I had Parkerized & replaced the wood with composite.
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October 27th, 2008 06:33 PM
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30-30 since 1866.
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October 27th, 2008 06:47 PM
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With out a doubt .30/30.
Have used .30/30 since the 60's. Have many other rifles but if needing something easy to handle and dependable the Winchester comes out of the cabinet.
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October 27th, 2008 07:02 PM
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Choice between an uzi and a 30-30....
30/30 by far.
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October 27th, 2008 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by
Blue
...if needing something easy to handle and dependable the Winchester comes out of the cabinet.
+1
My Winchester model 94 is first rate in my book.
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October 27th, 2008 07:35 PM
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Ya' just can't beat a 30-30 as a brush gun...it has the ability to reach out and touch someone (on a 5-acre parcel
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I bought a Marlin 336 in stainless during the last year for just such home protection.
The 30-30 is a 'keeper'.
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October 27th, 2008 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by
ron8903
Just picked up a mint pre .64 for two bills.
Sweet!
Pictures?
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October 27th, 2008 09:31 PM
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I'd buy an AK or SKS. The 7.62x39 has slightly better ballistics than the 30-30 (they are almost identical) and you get 30 in the mag for an AK. If the crap hits the fan for real you wont be sorry. AKs are in the same price range as a Winchester and ammo is dirt cheap. There will never be a scenario in which reaching out and touching someone with a rifle will look good in court (short of the total meltdown of society). So why not get the most firepower for your dollar?
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October 27th, 2008 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by
atctimmy
There will never be a scenario in which reaching out and touching someone with a rifle will look good in court (short of the total meltdown of society). So why not get the most firepower for your dollar?
True, but it is nice to be able to reach out and touch things that go bump in the night
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