The ONLY thing I like better about the Mossy 590 over the Rem 870 is the position of the safety. But you've gotta' keep a standard stock configuration on there to USE it!
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The ONLY thing I like better about the Mossy 590 over the Rem 870 is the position of the safety. But you've gotta' keep a standard stock configuration on there to USE it!
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I actually have the prefer the Mossberg 500 over the 590 because I have 2 barrels for them a 28" Multi choke and a 18.5" CB for HD
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That's assuming the 20 gauge & 12 gauge weigh the same. Remember, the lighter the gun = the heavier the recoil. So a 20 gauge is no advantage...if the reduction in recoil is matched with a reduction in gun weight. Better to use light-recoil loads in a full-weight 12 gauge, with a Youth stock configuration (if necessary) for handling & LOP.Generally this is the case but a smaller framed person or one who is very sensitive to recoil would be well served with a 20 ga.
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I had an Ithica police surplus 12. but I thought the bottom eject might put empties where I could step on them and slip in the dark.
Having shot Winchesters (mod 70s and mod 12s) most of my life, I selected a Winnie Defender. Works great, Not a prom queen but feeds and fires everytime. I have seen the police surplus firearms at several Law Enforcement supply companies in North Carolina from time to time.
I don't agree with this at all, but its a common misconception. Here is why;
Done right, felt recoil from a shotgun isn't much at all. People think the a 12g is such a beast because of folklore or they never have been taught how to shot a shotgun properly. I don't mean to ruffle feathers, but its the truth. Very very few people I've shot with or taught combat shotgunning to knew how to shoot a shotgun, even those who swore up and down they were near experts at it. The folklore of the shotgun is so widespread, it darn near has become fact.
Then, a 20g is no less powerful than a 12g. The only difference is the size of load delivered.
Finally, a point that already has been touched on, many 20g are built lighter than their 12g counterparts. This is basic physics, lighter gun=more felt recoil.
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I've been happy with my Rem1100, 23" Rem-choke barrel, Speed Feed, Briley mag extention gives 9+1 capacity. Favorite load for home defence is 22 pellet load of #4 Buck. Smaller size buck spreads better at close range, and is less likely to over penitrate, but is still large eough to get the job done! Would love to try a Benelli one of these days!
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If recoil is such a problem, don't they sell thicker pads for the butt to help absorb recoil?
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Yes and a heavier gun helps also. Example my old 1930 SXS shotgun is about 2 lbs heavier than my Mossberg 500 and has less recoil even though it has a steel butt plate.
A good use SXS or new Mossberg (I like the safety on top of the gun) can be found for under $250 especially now that it is hunting season.
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Picked up a slightly used PD turn-in Rem 870 Police model for short money. It's all steel (and resin stock), weighs a ton and well-made!
Rem now has a new reduced recoil pad that I found listed for ~$11 (C&R discount) that I'm going to try out.
I put one of the Sim's manufactured "Limbsaver" (but Remington branded "Super Cell R3") pads on the factory synthetic stock of my Remington 870 social shotgun. Nice fit & couldn't be happier.
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